Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u6GHKiCQ028639 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 19:20:44 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bOTCx-0007FT-8r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:16:55 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bOTCw-0007FK-Vq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:16:54 +0100 Received: from smtpout2.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.42] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bOTCv-0006hC-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:16:53 +0100 Received: from AGB ([95.150.81.44]) by mwinf5d17 with ME id KVGr1t0090xNL6v03VGrs7; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 19:16:52 +0200 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 19:16:52 +0200 X-ME-IP: 95.150.81.44 Message-ID: <69FB67271C9A4DA5BCA3465431AE10DF@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <250DC95D596441FEA4029B7265966ACD@AGB> <578A5CA6.18390.1DCC53B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <578A5CA6.18390.1DCC53B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:16:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: 1908b49407fc556987226b536cc4bad0 Subject: Re: LF: G3XDV IO91VT M0DSZ IO82LS Novel s/n / time 136/op32 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8387 Could be Mike. that's the problem with measuring s/n , could be noise up or signal down ... + 20 dB lift in the noise over night ? The % fade would give a clue, if its higher and quite random , may be noise , if its missing sections , qsb ? but that would only be known from the plot at M0DSZ local copy Other than that , would be a narrow band carrier level -S meter check , but that would need either setting up or watching .. 73-G, -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Dennison" Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 5:11 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: G3XDV IO91VT M0DSZ IO82LS Novel s/n / time 136/op32 > Well, I think the clue is in the phrase "signal to noise". The noise > level is much greater after dark than in the daytime, especially at > this time of year, so for the same signal strength the S/N is poorer > at night. > > Mike, G3XDV > =========== > >> G3XDV IO91VT M0DSZ IO82LS Novel s/n / time 136k >> >> Signal is stronger in the Day than the night , over 220k path >> >> Assume its sky wave subtracting from the day time level ? >> >> 73-G, >> >> >> >> 2016-07-16 07:31:38 G3XDV IO91VT M0DSZ IO82LS 220 136 3 >> Op32_|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| >> ||||||||||||||||||||||_3dB 2016-07-16 05:51:49 G3XDV IO91VT >> M0DSZ IO82LS 220 136 2 >> Op32_|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| >> ||||||||||||||||||||_2dB 2016-07-16 04:12:01 G3XDV IO91VT >> M0DSZ IO82LS 220 136 -0 >> Op32_|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| >> ||||||||||||||||_0dB 2016-07-16 02:32:13 G3XDV IO91VT M0DSZ >> IO82LS 220 136 -8 >> Op32_|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| >> _~8dB 2016-07-16 00:52:25 G3XDV IO91VT M0DSZ IO82LS 220 136 -15 >> Op32_||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_~15dB >> 2016-07-15 23:12:36 G3XDV IO91VT M0DSZ IO82LS 220 136 -16 >> Op32_||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_~16dB >> 2016-07-15 21:32:48 G3XDV IO91VT M0DSZ IO82LS 220 136 -15 >> Op32_||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_~15dB >> 2016-07-15 19:51:29 G3XDV IO91VT M0DSZ IO82LS 220 136 -18 >> Op32_||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_~18dB 2016-07-15 >> 18:08:26 G3XDV IO91VT M0DSZ IO82LS 220 136 -11 >> Op32_||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_~11dB >> >> >> >> >> G3XDV SM2DJK 2200m OPERA 1781 km 00:56:47 >> G3XDV SP5XSB 2200m OPERA 1445 km 23:16:59 >> G3XDV PA7EY 2200m OPERA 347 km 07:31:37 >> >> >> >> 2016-07-15 21:32:47 G3XDV IO91VT F5WK JN18HP 406 136 -24 >> Op32_||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_~24dB 2016-07-15 19:51:28 >> G3XDV IO91VT F5WK JN18HP 406 136 -16 >> Op32_||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_~17dB 2016-07-15 >> 18:08:26 G3XDV IO91VT F5WK JN18HP 406 136 -18 >> Op32_||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_~19dB 2016-07-16 >> 02:32:12 G3XDV IO91VT EA5DOM IM98XN 1.473 136 -37 Op32__~38dB >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2016.0.7688 / Virus Database: 4627/12623 - Release Date: >> 07/15/16 >> > > >