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Content preview: Luis and Pascal,   Heartiest congratulations on this 8783km transequatorial trek and persistence that yielded 2200m receptions, -25 and -28dB SNR at 0230 & 0236z last night!         The req [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.6.131.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mrsocion[at]aol.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_EF Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails X-Scan-Signature: 8d5e679c4ecb21aeba32cebcefaae7cb Subject: LF: First LF trans ecuatorial spots from FR5DH in WSPR2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_621664_1671780495.1561919303122" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_621664_1671780495.1561919303122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Luis and=C2=A0Pascal,=C2=A0=C2=A0 Heartiest congratulations on this=C2=A087= 83km transequatorial trek and persistence that yielded 2200m receptions, -2= 5 and -28dB SNR at 0230 & 0236z last night!=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 The requested w5est article is at May 21, 2018 KB5NJD blog:=C2= =A0 http://njdtechnologies.net/052118/=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 It refers to Luis' comments at May 20, 2018:=C2=A0 http://njdtechnol= ogies.net/052018/=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The reaso= ning for equatorial anomaly prop chordally beneath uplifted tilted E-region= contour surface portions=C2=A0would likely apply to 2200m also, as I see i= t.=C2=A0=C2=A0Other=C2=A0insights=C2=A0and reasoning by you and other opera= tors are most welcome too.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0A proba= bility discussion of various other=C2=A0proposed prop types on DX paths=C2= =A0suggested they are less likely than E-region reflections on 2200m:=C2=A0= http://njdtechnologies.net/060418/GL & 73, Jim H=C2=A0 W5EST From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sun, Jun 30, 2019 10:08 am Subject: Re: LF: First LF trans ecuatorial spots from FR5DH in WSPR2 Hi LF=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thank you all guys for your messages. Special= ly Pascal for being there in silence, but constantly This games, as we all know, are a matter of persistence. And suddenly one d= ay miracle happens =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Very interesting sunrise p= lots. Wonder if same can be done between LU and EA during the opposite solstice. There are some LU's willing to run good Rx right there and this m= ay be a next goal =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Another question to W5EST. Can t= his spots be also benefit from the equatorial anomaly which favoured a long distance hop without ground attenuation at crossing equator ? =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0BTW, I'm trying to recall t= he article at John's NJD site, but no success so far ;-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]= en nombre de Roman [rw3adb@YANDEX.ru] Enviado: domingo, 30 de junio de 201= 9 15:14 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: First LF trans ecuatorial spots from FR5DH in WSPR2 Congrats, Luis!=C2=A0 FB! Hi LF=C2=A0=C2=A0 Last nigt we got some kind of p= lanet alightment ;-) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0Antenna impedance wa= s nice for the PA to work properly =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0No wind and sta= ble weather conditions =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I could leave the Tx= running overnight=C2=A0 And last but most important, Pascal FR5DH was moni= toring LF > And miracle happened > 2019-06-30 02:36 EA5DOM 0.137558 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > 2019-06-30 02:30 EA5DOM 0.137558 -25 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 > I still can't believe it=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thank you Pa= scal for your monitoring !=C2=A0=C2=A0 73 de Luis=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM ------=_Part_621664_1671780495.1561919303122 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Luis and Pascal,   Heartiest congratulations on this&nb= sp;8783km transequatorial trek and persistence that yielded 2200m reception= s, -25 and -28dB SNR at 0230 & 0236z last night! 
       The requested w5est article is at= May 21, 2018 KB5NJD blog:  http://nj= dtechnologies.net/052118/ 
       It refers to Luis' comments at Ma= y 20, 2018:  http://njdtechnologies.n= et/052018/  
       The reasoning for equatorial anom= aly prop chordally beneath uplifted tilted E-region contour surface portion= s would likely apply to 2200m also, as I see it.  Other = ;insights and reasoning by you and other operators are most welcome to= o.
       A probability discussion of = various other proposed prop types on DX paths suggested they are = less likely than E-region reflections on 2200m:  http://njdtechnologies.net/060418/
GL & 73, Jim H  W5EST
From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez <luis@vigilant.es>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sun, Jun 30, 2019 10:08 am
Subject: Re: LF: First LF trans ecuatorial spots from FR5DH in WSPR2
Hi LF     Thank you all guys for your messages. Special= ly Pascal for being there in silence, but constantly
This= games, as we all know, are a matter of persistence. And suddenly one day m= iracle happens
       =   Very interesting sunrise plots. Wonder if same can be done between L= U and EA during the opposite
solstice. There are some LU'= s willing to run good Rx right there and this may be a next goal
        Another question to W5= EST. Can this spots be also benefit from the equatorial anomaly which favou= red
a long distance hop without ground attenuation at cro= ssing equator ?
       = ; BTW, I'm trying to recall the article at John's NJD site, but no suc= cess so far ;-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM
_______________________= _________________
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre d= e Roman [rw3adb@Y= ANDEX.ru] Enviado: domingo, 30 de junio de 2019 15:14
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re= : LF: First LF trans ecuatorial spots from FR5DH in WSPR2
Congrats, Luis!  FB! Hi LF   Last nigt we got some kind of = planet alightment ;-)
      = ;    Antenna impedance was nice for the PA to work properly<= br clear=3D"none">         &nb= sp;No wind and stable weather conditions
  &nbs= p;       I could leave the Tx running overnig= ht  And last but most important, Pascal FR5DH was monitoring LF
> And miracle happened
> 2019-06-30 02:= 36 EA5DOM 0.137558 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129
&= gt; 2019-06-30 02:30 EA5DOM 0.137558 -25 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783
> I still can't believe it     &nb= sp; Thank you Pascal for your monitoring !   73 de Luis &nbs= p; EA5DOM


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