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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:46:38 -0000
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Subject: Re: LF: Fwd: Special Permits for Amateur Radio Operation below 9kHz?
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Warren ,

If you  think this is bad, you  should take a  look at the  'ROS' 
discussion's in the yahoo   digital data group ..  SS  paranoia has taken 
hold !

G ..

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From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:31 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Fwd: Special Permits for Amateur Radio Operation below 
9kHz?

>
> Asking Ofcom for a license or Nov to generate a signal that will not
> extend past your own garden seems like a lot of trouble for
> nothing....
>
> -- 
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23
>                WE2XEB/2
>                WE2XGR/1
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Jacek Lipkowski <sq5bpf@lipkowski.org> 
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Roger Lapthorn wrote:
>>
>>> People may be interested in the reply from Rod Wilkinson at OFCOM 
>>> received
>>> today. I asked him what OFCOM's view would be.
>>
>> [...]
>>>
>>> They state that ITU Radio Regs indicate that there is no allocation for
>>> frequencies below 9 kHz. However in the UK, a licence would be required 
>>> as
>>> there is no lower frequency limit for wireless telegraphy under the WT 
>>> Act
>>> 2006. [...]
>>
>> there is already a very big commercial user of the elf and vlf spectrum,
>> they inject very big power into ground dipoles. emissions from one 
>> continent
>> can be heard on another. and they do this without any license from the 
>> radio
>> authorities. the only regulation they need regards maximum field 
>> strengths
>> (and this is usually the realm of some environmental protection authority
>> and not the radio authority). the operating frequency varies, but is 
>> usually
>> 50Hz, 60Hz, 16.6Hz etc :)
>>
>> sometimes when dealing with the goverment, the best practice is not to 
>> ask
>> at all :) even if they agree with you there will always be a "but you 
>> will
>> need a license for that" clause.
>>
>> if you have to ask, ask them if it is their duty to regulate potential
>> electromagnetic wave transmission from instalations operating on 50Hz (or
>> any other frequency in the 0-9kHz region, that is not ITU regulated). you
>> would probably get an entirely different answer :)
>>
>> VY 73
>>
>> Jacek / SQ5BPF
>>
>> ps. the answer that you got from OFCOM is actually very nice
>
>