Return-Path: Received: from mtain-di04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-di04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.8]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC103-86564d77f5881c4; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:47:52 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-di04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id EF04B3800008E; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PxRD5-0003Oj-JT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:46:23 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PxRD4-0003Oa-V4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:46:22 +0000 Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PxRD2-0002Yv-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:46:22 +0000 Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p29LkDZ4009867 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:46:13 -0500 Received: from White (nrbg-4dbf8d8a.pool.mediaWays.net [77.191.141.138]) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 20801E0000CD for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:46:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <61837EC08D2546078D392EC60ED384C5@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <33d07ccc43ec486d83d0d460928f26ad@kabelmail.de><4D77A449.1040603@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:46:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by imr-db01.mx.aol.com id p29LkDZ4009867 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: VLF: G3XBM grabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40084d77f58001e5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Roger, just one suggestion: perhaps you could soften the display contrast a= bit, to=20 allow better visibility during the daytime periods when QRN is low. The strange 8970.1 signature is very narrow so certainly of human orig= in,=20 and probably crystal controlled. Could be some timer-activated device= in the=20 neighbourhood. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Roger Lapthorn Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:20 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; Stefan Sch=E4fer Subject: Re: LF: VLF dj8wx on 8970.022Hz Hi Stefan, I enclose here the full wider band 3 day plot of the noise (and myster= y=20 signal) as received in 424uHz BW here in JO02dg near Cambridge. Do you= have=20 any comments please? The mystery signal appears on all three nights at= =20 8.9701kHz. It looks like a little "hook" shape over about 4 hours. BTW, the loop/preamp system is receiving the alpha beacons very well,= =20 typically 20dB over the noise. See=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTDxRhQYg7lQ for a video showing alpha= beacon=20 reception using the SM6LKM software VLF receiver. If the interference/noise at 8.9701kHz was natural then surely it woul= d be=20 amazing for such signals to exactly repeat 3 nights running at exactly= the=20 same frequency? OK, I agree the general background noise floor may be= partly=20 man made and partly the natural noise floor changing diurnally but the= =20 oddity at 8.9701kHz? The grabber is currently OFF as I shall be away for a couple of days,= but=20 still in email contact. 73s Roger G3XBM 2011/3/9 Stefan Sch=E4fer Hello Roger, Am 08.03.2011 20:51, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: Nothing visible on my grabber https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15047843/xbm_gr= ab.jpg=20 yet this evening but I have a high noise level in the evening hours fr= om=20 lights, TVs etc.Leave the TX running overnight please as I hope to see= your=20 signal after midnight and through tomorrow morning. In the 423uHz band= width=20 and with the slow scroll speed it will be more difficult to see than= when=20 you were sending a continuous carrier a few days ago. Are you sure it is local QRM? Maybe its just the usual QRN that risies= =20 strongly in the evening. It is as strong as never before within this= year=20 now :-( And things will get even worse. We have to make QRO, faster th= an=20 nature does it ;-) To check the local QRN/QRM situation it would be helpful (and interest= ing!)=20 to have a wideband screen from you. If you want, you could run a secon= d SL=20 instance simultaneously and upload the pictures. You know how the wide= band=20 windows looks, from grabbers like TF3HZ which is most interesting each= day=20 :-) Also you may arrange a real website and store it on your dropbox. Ther= e you=20 can include several pictures in one link, the link to the website :-) Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC