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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Markus and Paul, VLF, Many thanks for the feedback. What a great result! Paul, after the EbNaut transmission i sent '73' in DFCW-90, which is a typical mode for LF operation. Do you see the message in a spectrogram, like M [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: f7f918e40888a44a70dddae14bd6a529 Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut message announcement @ 5170 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080400050502030504010004" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080400050502030504010004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Markus and Paul, VLF, Many thanks for the feedback. What a great result! Paul, after the EbNaut transmission i sent '73' in DFCW-90, which is a typical mode for LF operation. Do you see the message in a spectrogram, like Markus did at DL0AO? Best setting may be something like 20 mHz and 10 sec/pixel. On my tree (meanwhile shutdown because the old accu is empty!) the E field is still not really usable but the loops work very well on that frequency. Mixing both loops and optimising the settings gives *carrier S/N: 48.05 dB in 282.5* uHz for the carrier transmission! So i could see a clear trace from a 1 W transmitter! I'll produce a spectrogram from the postprocessed data... Maybe Jacek got something too? :-) 73, TNX, Stefan Am 16.03.2019 15:29, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > Stefan wrote: > > > The carrier is now running since 09:31 UTC at 5170.1 Hz. > > Enormous signal here - > > http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/190316a.png > > S/N 33.6 dB in 278uHz, -2dB in 1Hz, -36dB in 2.5kHz. > > > Message: > > *f = 5170.1 Hz > > > Symbol period: 2 s > > Characters: 14 > > CRC bits: 14 > > Coding 16K21A > > > start at 10:30:00.3 UTC. > > Decoded rank 0 BER 8.9% constant reference phase. > > carrier Eb/N0: 10.3 dB > carrier S/N: 29.3 dB in 264.8 uHz, -6.5 dB in 1Hz, -40.5 dB in 2.5kHz > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > --------------080400050502030504010004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Markus and Paul, VLF,

Many thanks for the feedback. What a great result!
Paul, after the EbNaut transmission i sent '73' in DFCW-90, which is a typical mode for LF operation. Do you see the message in a spectrogram, like Markus did at DL0AO? Best setting may be something like 20 mHz and 10 sec/pixel.

On my tree (meanwhile shutdown because the old accu is empty!) the E field is still not really usable but the loops work very well on that frequency. Mixing both loops and optimising the settings gives carrier S/N: 48.05 dB in 282.5 uHz for the carrier transmission!
So i could see a clear trace from a 1 W transmitter!

I'll produce a spectrogram from the postprocessed data...

Maybe Jacek got something too? :-)

73, TNX, Stefan


Am 16.03.2019 15:29, schrieb Paul Nicholson:

Stefan wrote:

> The carrier is now running since 09:31 UTC at 5170.1 Hz.

Enormous signal here -

 http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/190316a.png

S/N 33.6 dB in 278uHz, -2dB in 1Hz, -36dB in 2.5kHz.

> Message:
> *f = 5170.1 Hz

> Symbol period: 2 s
> Characters: 14
> CRC bits: 14
> Coding 16K21A

> start at 10:30:00.3 UTC.

Decoded rank 0 BER 8.9% constant reference phase.

carrier Eb/N0: 10.3 dB
carrier S/N: 29.3 dB in 264.8 uHz, -6.5 dB in 1Hz, -40.5 dB in 2.5kHz

--
Paul Nicholson
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