Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 44A8E3800008C; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SgFpn-0005uH-US for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:48:07 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SgFpn-0005u8-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:48:07 +0100 Received: from smtpout4.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.68] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SgFpk-0006x6-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:48:06 +0100 Received: from AGB ([2.26.14.151]) by mwinf5d51 with ME id PRo01j00C3FYniy03Ro0VJ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:48:03 +0200 Message-ID: <5C476E3C047E43D98DCAE238AF1FE6E9@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <0D4DC6EEC79B42328EDCDEFB0B10830B@AGB> <9BC6879BA28949A9A5292FB65ACD03BD@W1KW> In-Reply-To: <9BC6879BA28949A9A5292FB65ACD03BD@W1KW> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:48:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120617-0, 17/06/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Geri, All of these decodes are above the -28 dB minimum for ros-mf-2 data mode should be able to make a 2 way qso , If I can get the same level at your end ! Thinking later , may be using the same dial-set qrg for the Ros MF mode , would be a better idea , than setting to the top of the band , as the Opera qso mode is 1400/1600 Hz and would not interfere with the beacon decodes , MF mode is based on 1500 Hz both packages could be run at the same time , monitoring 477 [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.68 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: ffe713a28f995f248841b38a647a96f7 Subject: Re: LF: BINGO !! Opera decode from 477 via Delft sdr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01CD4C98.30FEB030" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:464125312:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad04fdde0631d04 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CD4C98.30FEB030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Geri, All of these decodes are above the -28 dB minimum for ros-mf-2 = data mode ........... should be able to make a 2 way qso , If I = can get the same level at your end !=20 Thinking later , may be using the same dial-set qrg for the = Ros MF mode , would be a better idea , than setting to the top = of the band , as the Opera qso mode is 1400/1600 Hz and would = not interfere with the beacon decodes , MF mode is based on 1500 = Hz both packages could be run at the same time , monitoring 477 = The ROS MF modes 2+7 baud are also linked to the psk-reporting = system and have beacon facility , for MF-2 , De G0NBD is all = the text that is needed , the software detects the 'De' and = reads the call after it and will announce the decode via the = web .......an automated beacon reply is also available , where the = station will auto reply to a call .........as in Opera , no = web-time locking is required . 73 -G.. 00:36 500 DK8KW Op4 -23 dB 00:27 500 DK8KW Op4 -23 dB 00:14 500 DK8KW Op4 -26 dB 00:06 500 DK8KW Op4 -23 dB 00:44 500 DK8KW Op4 -20 dB 00:36 500 DK8KW Op4 -23 dB 00:27 500 DK8KW Op4 -23 dB 00:14 500 DK8KW Op4 -26 dB 00:06 500 DK8KW Op4 -23 dB From: DK8KW & DI2BO=20 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:45 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: BINGO !! Opera decode from 477 via Delft sdr=20 Graham, I will look into ROS, I have a SSB exciter that works down to 100 kHz = which should be able to do the trick. Thanks, 73 Geri, DK8KW & DI2BO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: BINGO !! Opera decode from 477 via Delft sdr=20 DF2JP=20 First station to decode off air , at -22 dB that is strong = enough to use the ROS-MF-2 data mode for a qso ! , Opera qso = mode needs -20 dB min signal level ,=20 (ROS MF needs Audio + ssb or SDR tx , but is MFSK so no need = for a linear PA ) 18:44 500 DK8KW de DF2JP Op4 160 mi -22 dB in Duesseldorf with 0.4w + = Umbrella,=20 18:44 500 DK8KW de G0NBD Op4 245 mi -29 dB in delft web sdr with 0.4w = + Umbrella From: Graham=20 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:12 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: nietoros@hotmail.com=20 Subject: LF: BINGO !! Opera decode from 477 via Delft sdr=20 First decode from 477 , using web-sdr at Delft =20 73 -G.=20 16:07 500 DK8KW Op4 -28 dB *********** 16/06/2012 ***********=20 16:07 500 DK8KW de G0NBD Op4 245 mi -28 dB in delft web sdr with 0.4w = + Umbrella ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CD4C98.30FEB030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Geri,
 
All of these decodes are  above the  -28 dB =20 minimum   for ros-mf-2   data  mode ........... = should  be  able to  make a   2  way  = qso ,=20 If  I  can  get the  same  level  at  = your  end  !
 
Thinking  later , may  be  using  the  = same =20 dial-set  qrg  for  the  Ros MF mode  , would = be =20 a  better  idea  , than  setting  to  = the =20 top of the  band , as the  Opera  qso  mode =20 is   1400/1600 Hz   and  would  not=20 interfere   with  the  beacon  decodes , MF = mode=20 is  based  on 1500 Hz  both  packages  = could =20 be  run at the  same  time , monitoring  477 =  
 
The  ROS MF modes  2+7 baud are  also  linked = to=20 the  psk-reporting  system  and  have =20 beacon   facility ,  for  MF-2 ,  De = G0NBD =20 is  all  the  text  that  is  needed , = the =20 software  detects  the  'De'  and  reads = the =20 call  after  it  and  will  announce the =20 decode  via  the  web .......an  automated = beacon =20 reply  is also  available  , where  the  = station=20 will  auto  reply  to a call  .........as in = Opera  ,=20 no  web-time  locking  is  required .
 
73 -G..
 
 
00:36    500 DK8KW Op4 -23 = dB
00:27    500=20 DK8KW Op4 -23 dB
00:14    500 DK8KW Op4 -26=20 dB
00:06    500 DK8KW Op4 -23 dB
 
00:44    500 DK8KW Op4 -20 = dB
00:36    500=20 DK8KW Op4 -23 dB
00:27    500 DK8KW Op4 -23=20 dB
00:14    500 DK8KW Op4 -26 = dB
00:06   =20 500 DK8KW Op4 -23 dB
 

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: LF: BINGO !! Opera decode from 477 via Delft = sdr=20

Graham,
 
I will look into ROS, I have a SSB = exciter=20 that works down to 100 kHz which should be able to do the=20 trick.
 
 
Thanks, 73
 
Geri, DK8KW & DI2BO
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 = 9:10=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: BINGO !! Opera = decode=20 from 477 via Delft sdr

DF2JP
 
First  station  to  decode  off  air , = at =20 -22 dB   that is  strong enough  to  use = the =20 ROS-MF-2  data  mode  for  a qso !   ,=20 Opera  qso mode  needs  -20 dB min signal  = level  ,=20
 
(ROS MF needs  Audio + ssb  or  SDR   = tx  ,=20 but  is  MFSK  so  no need  for  a  = linear=20 PA )
 

18:44 500 DK8KW de DF2JP Op4 160 mi -22 dB in Duesseldorf with 0.4w = +=20 Umbrella,

18:44 500 DK8KW de G0NBD Op4 245 mi -29 dB in delft web sdr with = 0.4w +=20 Umbrella

 

From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:12 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Cc: nietoros@hotmail.com
Subject: LF: BINGO !! Opera decode from 477 via Delft sdr=20

First decode  from  477 ,  = using =20 web-sdr  at Delft 

73 -G.

16:07 500 DK8KW Op4 -28 dB

*********** 16/06/2012 ***********=20

 

16:07 500 DK8KW de G0NBD Op4 245 mi -28 dB in delft web sdr with = 0.4w +=20 Umbrella

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