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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: > > > *From:* Neil > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Thursday, 10 January 2019, 21:23 > ** > > I i [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: fbdd513523001863775249cfaf215eac Subject: LF: Experimenting.. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070609060505050609050404" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070609060505050609050404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Neil > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Thursday, 10 January 2019, 21:23 > ** > > I imagine lots of people are considering the use of long lengths of > metal infrastructure > Do you really? How many, make a guess. What are they waiting for? > > so if there is a solution which is demonstrably better, it would save > a lot of unnecessary trouble for experimenters. > What is experimenting? Isn't it doing some steps on new territory, just out of interest? Doesn't experimenting mean that you know that you can fail or that you can have success with your experiments? And that failing doesn't matter because the experiments are most interesting in themselves, so actually there can be no failing because doing the experiment is the success! So, is an experimenter who wants to "save a lot of unnecessary trouble" an experimenter at all? 73, Stefan --------------070609060505050609050404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

From: Neil <neil@g4dbn.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019, 21:23

I imagine lots of people are considering the use of long lengths of metal infrastructure

Do you really? How many, make a guess. What are they waiting for?

so if there is a solution which is demonstrably better, it would save a lot of unnecessary trouble for experimenters.

What is experimenting? Isn't it doing some steps on new territory, just out of interest? Doesn't experimenting mean that you know that you can fail or that you can have success with your experiments? And that failing doesn't matter because the experiments are most interesting in themselves, so actually there can be no failing because doing the experiment is the success!
So, is an experimenter who wants to "save a lot of unnecessary trouble" an experimenter at all?

73, Stefan
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