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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Am 14.11.2018 12:12, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net: > Are you still running that amazing glass tube / litz loading coil? No, sadly it became damaged due to surface arcing that lead to a broken glass b [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.65 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 0317e2ac8ed27149e57223a21580246d Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF EbNaut tonite Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020605070508050401080403" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020605070508050401080403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 14.11.2018 12:12, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net: > Are you still running that amazing glass tube / litz loading coil? No, sadly it became damaged due to surface arcing that lead to a broken glass body. There was a partial discharge guard ring on the top of the coil, which lost its contact to the upper turn of the coil. I still have the litz laying arround here but i would need to organise a new tube for winding. The litz seemed to perform a bit worse in the end. But with a larger coil diameter, the Q could be rised and also the L. Then, i could cut the first and last 2 meters of the wire to reach the same L again, then with even lower losses. But power dissipation is another factor that must be considered. You know i'm not the one who avoids effort, so you see it is all a question of priorities. In the end of 2013 there was not so much interest in LF and so i tended to focus on MF and then VLF... Let's see what happens in the next time. I'm still a bit unconvinced (by myselfe) to put much effort into LF. Thus i'm running that small lossy coil now, out of simple 0.75mm^2 loudspeaker cable onto a 20 cm diameter PVC tube... But it seems to be fine for some testing :-) 73, Stefan --------------020605070508050401080403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Am 14.11.2018 12:12, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net:
 
Are you still running that amazing glass tube / litz loading coil?
No, sadly it became damaged due to surface arcing that lead to a broken glass body. There was a partial discharge guard ring on the top of the coil, which lost its contact to the upper turn of the coil. I still have the litz laying arround here but i would need to organise a new tube for winding. The litz seemed to perform a bit worse in the end. But with a larger coil diameter, the Q could be rised and also the L. Then, i could cut the first and last 2 meters of the wire to reach the same L again, then with even lower losses. But power dissipation is another factor that must be considered. You know i'm not the one who avoids effort, so you see it is all a question of priorities. In the end of 2013 there was not so much interest in LF and so i tended to focus on MF and then VLF...
Let's see what happens in the next time. I'm still a bit unconvinced (by myselfe) to put much effort into LF.  Thus i'm running that small lossy coil now, out of simple 0.75mm^2 loudspeaker cable onto a 20 cm diameter PVC tube... But it seems to be fine for some testing :-)

73, Stefan
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