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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Riccardo, On which same QRG? Like last night or on my QRG? :-) Of course you can use my QRG if you use the odd half hour (xx:30). Your settings are fine i think. Maybe use 16K21A and just 3 characters at 2 sec [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.65 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: a5eebf1400afcbaf7aee821a75970899 Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF EbNaut tonite Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050907000905010404030707" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050907000905010404030707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Riccardo, On which same QRG? Like last night or on my QRG? :-) Of course you can use my QRG if you use the odd half hour (xx:30). Your settings are fine i think. Maybe use 16K21A and just 3 characters at 2 sec symbols if you want to rise the chances even more. Good luck! Obviously there are now a few DX stns watching. I also got some feedback from K3SIW... 73, Stefan Am 13.11.2018 17:07, schrieb Riccardo Zoli: > > Thanks so much, Stefan! Yes, sorry but I turned off the TX prematurely > (I was going out to work). Maybe I will try again tonight on the same > QRG (or another: any suggestion?). I also could increase the symbol > duration, so I'd have a better chance in a DX report. > > All the best > > > 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW > > > > Il giorno Mar 13 Nov 2018, 10:46 DK7FC > ha scritto: > > Hello Riccardo, > > Here is your decode from here. I just tried the 7 UTC message. Of > course no problem but it looks like it stopped a bit early. > Good luck and let's hope for some more professors. > > 73, Stefan > > > Am 12.11.2018 20:18, schrieb Riccardo Zoli: >> >> Hi Jay, Rob, Stefan, Markus, all >> >> I have scheduled some transmissions, *starting at 19:30 UTC* >> (last TX at 07:00 UTC), *every 30 minutes*: >> >> *QRG: 137485.000 Hz* >> *Coding 8K19A* >> *CRC 16* >> *3 sec./sym.* >> *6 char* >> *Duration 28 min.* >> >> Antenna: inv. "L" 12 m + 36 m top hat. >> Power 350W. >> >> Reports are welcome. >> >> All the best >> >> 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW >> >> >> >> PS. Stefan booming (error free) last night in JN64 ;-) >> >> >> Il giorno Lun 12 Nov 2018, 13:55 Rob Renoud >> > ha scritto: >> >> Jay and Stefan, >> I attempted my first over the air EbNaut decodes last night >> using two separate receive systems. All appeared well but >> find that both instances of SL did not save the entire wave >> file for each receive period but truncated it to about 165K. >> Will play with that today as have not experienced that in >> previous end-to-end sessions in the shack. >> Well done and thanks for putting the EbNaut signal on the >> air, Stefan. Thanks for posting yours, Jay, as it confirms I >> should have been able to copy all. Look forward to another >> opportunity. >> 73, >> Rob - K3RWR >> *From:* jrusgrove@comcast.net >> *Sent:* Monday, November 12, 2018 1:34 AM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* Re: LF: LF EbNaut tonite >> Stefan >> Copy of your message below. The message is not blacked out >> since it was already available on Marcus's automated decoder. >> Nice to see rank 0. Will be looking for Marcus next! >> Jay W1VD >> >> *----- Original Message -----* >> *From:* DK7FC >> *Reply-To:* >> *To:* >> *Sent:* 11/11/2018 2:01:37 PM >> *Subject:* Re: LF: LF EbNaut tonite >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> PS: The message is transmitted from a SpecLab instance. >> So you need to consider the +0.3 second time offset, >> which is relevant at that symbol length. Furthermore >> there is some uncertainty if the transmission starts at >> the exact second. It could happen that it starts 1 second >> to late. We will see what happens. >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> Am 11.11.2018 18:38, schrieb DK7FC: >>> Hi LF, >>> >>> I'd like to try some EbNaut transmissions tonite. Maybe >>> someone is some distance is interested to detect them? >>> >>> Here is the program: >>> >>> *f = 137.465 kHz >>> Start time: 11.NOV.2018 19:00 UTC (hourly, until >>> including 7 UTC) >>> Symbol period: 1 s >>> Characters: 21 >>> CRC bits:** 16** >>> Coding 8K19A >>> Antenna current: 4 A >>> Duration: 21:20 [mm:ss]* >>> >>> Reports welcome. >>> >>> 73, Stefan >> --------------050907000905010404030707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Riccardo,

On which same QRG? Like last night or on my QRG? :-) Of course you can use my QRG if you use the odd half hour (xx:30). Your settings are fine i think. Maybe use 16K21A and just 3 characters at 2 sec symbols if you want to rise the chances even more.

Good luck!

Obviously there are now a few DX stns watching. I also got some feedback from K3SIW...

73, Stefan

Am 13.11.2018 17:07, schrieb Riccardo Zoli:

Thanks so much, Stefan! Yes, sorry but I turned off the TX prematurely (I was going out to work). Maybe I will try again tonight on the same QRG (or another: any suggestion?). I also could increase the symbol duration, so I'd have a better chance in a DX report.

All the best


73 de Riccardo IW4DXW



Il giorno Mar 13 Nov 2018, 10:46 DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de> ha scritto:
Hello Riccardo,

Here is your decode from here. I just tried the 7 UTC message. Of course no problem but it looks like it stopped a bit early.
Good luck and let's hope for some more professors.

73, Stefan


Am 12.11.2018 20:18, schrieb Riccardo Zoli:

Hi Jay, Rob, Stefan, Markus, all

I have scheduled some transmissions, starting at 19:30 UTC (last TX at 07:00 UTC), every 30 minutes:

QRG: 137485.000 Hz
Coding 8K19A
CRC 16
3 sec./sym.
6 char
Duration 28 min.

Antenna: inv. "L" 12 m + 36 m top hat.
Power 350W.

Reports are welcome.

All the best

73 de Riccardo IW4DXW



PS. Stefan booming (error free) last night in JN64 ;-) 


Il giorno Lun 12 Nov 2018, 13:55 Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocast.net> ha scritto:
Jay and Stefan,
 
I attempted my first over the air EbNaut decodes last night using two separate receive systems.  All appeared well but find that both instances of SL did not save the entire wave file for each receive period but truncated it to about 165K.  Will play with that today as have not experienced that in previous end-to-end sessions in the shack.
 
Well done and thanks for putting the EbNaut signal on the air, Stefan.  Thanks for posting yours, Jay, as it confirms I should have been able to copy all.  Look forward to another opportunity.
 
73,
Rob - K3RWR
 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: LF: LF EbNaut tonite
 
Stefan
 
Copy of your message below. The message is not blacked out since it was already available on Marcus's automated decoder. Nice to see rank 0. Will be looking for Marcus next!
 
 
Jay W1VD
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/11/2018 2:01:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: LF EbNaut tonite
PS: The message is transmitted from a SpecLab instance. So you need to consider the +0.3 second time offset, which is relevant at that symbol length. Furthermore there is some uncertainty if the transmission starts at the exact second. It could happen that it starts 1 second to late. We will see what happens.

73, Stefan

Am 11.11.2018 18:38, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi LF,

I'd like to try some EbNaut transmissions tonite. Maybe someone is some distance is interested to detect them?

Here is the program:

f = 137.465 kHz
Start time: 11.NOV.2018  19:00 UTC (hourly, until including 7 UTC)
Symbol period: 1 s
Characters: 21
CRC bits: 16
Coding 8K19A
Antenna current: 4 A
Duration: 21:20 [mm:ss]

Reports welcome.

73, Stefan
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