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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Rik, Am 10.11.2018 17:55, schrieb Rik Strobbe: > > - Do JT9-2 and JT9-5 "in the real world" (with ionoshepric > instabilies, drifting transmitter and receivers) have a significant > advantage over JT9? > Certainly they will. The old versions also supported JT9-10 and JT9-30 which is useful for LF, but nor for MF of course. > > - Is there sufficient interest of the LF/MF community to use thse modes? > I expect that any QSO mode (except CW!) will only rise activity for a short period, like a weekend, for maybe 2 or 3 time per season. Isn't that what we all observe since the last 10 years? > > 3. I haven't had any crash so far, but it is better to be safe > than sorry. Maybe I can add a "don't show this message again" option. > Oh yes :-) There is always a risk when you allow a software to drive your PA, beta version or not. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 138e3b341e0543401afa7e97ee054540 Subject: Re: LF: SlowJT9: 1st QSO and 2nd bug found Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040705070501040109020006" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040705070501040109020006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rik, Am 10.11.2018 17:55, schrieb Rik Strobbe: > > - Do JT9-2 and JT9-5 "in the real world" (with ionoshepric > instabilies, drifting transmitter and receivers) have a significant > advantage over JT9? > Certainly they will. The old versions also supported JT9-10 and JT9-30 which is useful for LF, but nor for MF of course. > > - Is there sufficient interest of the LF/MF community to use thse modes? > I expect that any QSO mode (except CW!) will only rise activity for a short period, like a weekend, for maybe 2 or 3 time per season. Isn't that what we all observe since the last 10 years? > > 3. I haven't had any crash so far, but it is better to be safe > than sorry. Maybe I can add a "don't show this message again" option. > Oh yes :-) There is always a risk when you allow a software to drive your PA, beta version or not. 73, Stefan --------------040705070501040109020006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rik,

Am 10.11.2018 17:55, schrieb Rik Strobbe:

- Do JT9-2 and JT9-5 "in the real world" (with ionoshepric instabilies, drifting transmitter and receivers) have a significant advantage over JT9?

Certainly they will. The old versions also supported JT9-10 and JT9-30 which is useful for LF, but nor for MF of course.

- Is there sufficient interest of the LF/MF community to use thse modes?

I expect that any QSO mode (except CW!) will only rise activity for a short period, like a weekend, for maybe 2 or 3 time per season. Isn't that what we all observe since the last 10 years?

3. I haven't had any crash so far, but it is better to be safe than sorry. Maybe I can add a "don't show this message again" option.

Oh yes :-)
There is always a risk when you allow a software to drive your PA, beta version or not.

73, Stefan
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