Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id wA8A28SG027606 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 11:02:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gKgyF-00027q-O2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 09:51:27 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gKgus-00027Q-6Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 09:47:58 +0000 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91_59-0488984) (envelope-from ) id 1gKgup-0007jA-IA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 09:47:56 +0000 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9D462400E6 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 10:47:43 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=posteo.de Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1541670463; bh=xW2CicHdmu+ghx2WNgLpM3SCzDKLP9eSoB5j/zszYHU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=hsY+8+ZCEPrHP3TmME9fMGN62xVCaoYjowfuoP+Dc08cLgwxOz1HYvTXqXPIoVfHP 4Of5FbKK+3TRLaIELyeEVYSo2Msc6fjKumjyYYka1ARd33x6eQljP81v5Nx6EFfy3T he0blyXYkeQBS9NHlES2F/7aA6yD6Mgm50xuGCLwumFvreJwp9ChhD+noBbmmjd3D6 CmyEJmaWJjQFbu6nJLdBUD3tvHCMndqtWcFcm82uZyhxDyjMvT9Hdyee4G6y3GrbB9 4XEsMtGpH5id1Cub+NYwBgMk5KqGvhsmSad17PpGLdzlDm/UhL/+F2frxGQmrxFC6O gPjqfZahv7C3g== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 42rJNt643jz9rxL for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 10:47:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5BE4063E.7080103@posteo.de> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 10:47:42 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: LF JT-9 ? References: <5BE36396.3030306@posteo.de> <5BE3F24E.4020903@posteo.de> <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA14E17861@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA14E17861@servigilant.vigilant.local> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070707050103010109080104" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Luis, Am 08.11.2018 10:18, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández: > > I have nothing arranged to be able to work JT9 in LF at the moment > > Probably the upconverter for MF be usable. Have to test it > But how do you generate WSPR? Aaah is it from a U3S or so? Yes, an upconverter is the best choice. Build a separate one for LF :-) [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 1.6 SUBJ_ALL_CAPS Subject is all capitals -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID BODY: Test for Invalidly Named or Formatted Colors in HTML 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: a3f8552972422e93100c5043a10e4b3c X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SA Timed out after 180 secs Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070707050103010109080104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Luis, Am 08.11.2018 10:18, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández: > > I have nothing arranged to be able to work JT9 in LF at the moment > > Probably the upconverter for MF be usable. Have to test it > But how do you generate WSPR? Aaah is it from a U3S or so? Yes, an upconverter is the best choice. Build a separate one for LF :-) > What I plan for this Christmas is a CW beacon in LF. Just to rise > interest in the band. > Yes this is a good odea and worked well in the past. > Not many commercial equipment go down to LF with some performance Commercial equipment should be totally out of interest anyway, at least below 1 MHz. It is exactly the beauty of this end of the spectrum, that you can build everything on your own, without special and expensive parts. > QSOs will be nice. QRSS may be also an option. There are still many > FIRST to do in LF , not only in VLF and beyond ;-) > Yes yes, i know ;-). With your recent -9 dB WSPR decode we could even try CW! But first i need to build a proper coil i think. I have one available but it will handle not more than 4 A or so. > So far, I just did a first 9A<>EA in LF with Boki, 9A3KB, last year > using QRSS last year > Be careful with such claims on LF :-) But maybe you are right. I have no overview. The early LF operators may know more. There has been done a LOT on that band in the past. CW was a regular mode and there have been quite a lot stations on the air. The first time i transmitted on LF was in 2003, but my signal was very poor with the antenna i used at that time. Anyway it was possible to work many stations in QRSS and CW. Exciting. 73, GL, Stefan > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *En nombre de *DK7FC > *Enviado el:* jueves, 08 de noviembre de 2018 9:23 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* LF: LF JT-9 ? > > LF, > > Fortunately there are several new stations on the air on 137 kHz > (relative to 5 years ago) which are strong enough to work from here in > JT-9. > Last night: > > *Timestamp* > > > > *Call* > > > > *MHz* > > > > *SNR* > > > > *Drift* > > > > *Grid* > > > > *Pwr* > > > > *Reporter* > > > > *RGrid* > > > > *km* > > > > *az* > > 2018-11-08 00:40 > > > > EA5DOM > > > > 0.137516 > > > > -9 > > > > 0 > > > > IM98xn > > > > 1 > > > > DK7FC > > > > JN49ik > > > > 1395 > > > > 27 > > 2018-11-07 18:38 > > > > M0DSZ > > > > 0.137534 > > > > -24 > > > > 0 > > > > IO82ls > > > > 0.01 > > > > DK7FC > > > > JN49ik > > > > 899 > > > > 110 > > 2018-11-07 19:00 > > > > G8HUH > > > > 0.137430 > > > > -23 > > > > 0 > > > > IO81mg > > > > 0.05 > > > > DK7FC > > > > JN49ik > > > > 851 > > > > 99 > > 2018-11-07 09:56 > > > > F1BPT > > > > 0.137500 > > > > -21 > > > > 0 > > > > JO10 > > > > 1 > > > > DK7FC > > > > JN49ik > > > > 427 > > > > 104 > > 2018-11-07 17:42 > > > > DK6NI > > > > 0.137475 > > > > -12 > > > > 0 > > > > JN59ln > > > > 0.001 > > > > DK7FC > > > > JN49ik > > > > 163 > > > > 266 > > > This is worth to do a QSO party on LF already, but i think there are > even more stations such as DF6NM ready to TX. > > Should we try to attempt some JT-9 QSOs on Saturday evening? > > I'm not yet QRV again but could prepare things on Saturday... > > 73, Stefan > --------------070707050103010109080104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Luis,

Am 08.11.2018 10:18, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández:

I have nothing arranged to be able to work JT9 in LF at the moment

Probably the upconverter for MF be usable. Have to test it

But how do you generate WSPR? Aaah is it from a U3S or so?
Yes, an upconverter is the best choice. Build a separate one for LF :-)

 What I plan for this Christmas is a CW beacon in LF. Just to rise interest in the band.

Yes this is a good odea and worked well in the past.
Not many commercial equipment go down to LF with some performance
Commercial equipment should be totally out of interest anyway, at least below 1 MHz.
It is exactly the beauty of this end of the spectrum, that you can build everything on your own, without special and expensive parts.

QSOs will be nice. QRSS may be also an option. There are still many FIRST to do in LF , not only in VLF and beyond  ;-)

Yes yes, i know ;-). With your recent -9 dB WSPR decode we could even try CW!
But first i need to build a proper coil i think. I have one available but it will handle not more than 4 A or so.

 So far, I just did a first 9A<>EA in LF with Boki, 9A3KB, last year using QRSS last year

Be careful with such claims on LF :-) But maybe you are right. I have no overview. The early LF operators may know more.
There has been done a LOT on that band in the past. CW was a regular mode and there have been quite a lot stations on the air. The first time i transmitted on LF was in 2003, but my signal was very poor with the antenna i used at that time. Anyway it was possible to work many stations in QRSS and CW. Exciting.

73, GL, Stefan


 

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

 

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de DK7FC
Enviado el: jueves, 08 de noviembre de 2018 9:23
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: LF JT-9 ?

 

LF,

Fortunately there are several new stations on the air on 137 kHz (relative to 5 years ago) which are strong enough to work from here in JT-9.
Last night:

Timestamp

Call

MHz

SNR

Drift

Grid

Pwr

Reporter

RGrid

km

az

 2018-11-08 00:40 

 EA5DOM 

 0.137516 

 -9 

 0 

 IM98xn 

 1 

 DK7FC 

 JN49ik 

 1395 

 27 

 2018-11-07 18:38 

 M0DSZ 

 0.137534 

 -24 

 0 

 IO82ls 

 0.01 

 DK7FC 

 JN49ik 

 899 

 110 

 2018-11-07 19:00 

 G8HUH 

 0.137430 

 -23 

 0 

 IO81mg 

 0.05 

 DK7FC 

 JN49ik 

 851 

 99 

 2018-11-07 09:56 

 F1BPT 

 0.137500 

 -21 

 0 

 JO10 

 1 

 DK7FC 

 JN49ik 

 427 

 104 

 2018-11-07 17:42 

 DK6NI 

 0.137475 

 -12 

 0 

 JN59ln 

 0.001 

 DK7FC 

 JN49ik 

 163 

 266 


This is worth to do a QSO party on LF already, but i think there are even more stations such as DF6NM ready to TX.

Should we try to attempt some JT-9 QSOs on Saturday evening?

I'm not yet QRV again but could prepare things on Saturday...

73, Stefan

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