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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Luis, Congrats to your success. We're looking forward to your messages. Try to apply that 100 mW to your antenna. It is not unlikely that it can be decoded in DL! For example, try http://abelian.org/ebnaut/calc.php?sndb=0&snbws=0.022&snmps=&code=16K21&sp=2&crc=16&nc=3&submit=Calculate [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.65 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 160666a84ef5d9af0d8f07b52ab8f793 Subject: Re: LF: The return of EbNaut for Dummies Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040906090501010006090501" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040906090501010006090501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Luis, Congrats to your success. We're looking forward to your messages. Try to apply that 100 mW to your antenna. It is not unlikely that it can be decoded in DL! For example, try http://abelian.org/ebnaut/calc.php?sndb=0&snbws=0.022&snmps=&code=16K21&sp=2&crc=16&nc=3&submit=Calculate 73, Stefan Am 13.09.2018 15:12, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández: > Hi Stefan, Markus, EbNaut > > Confirmed Markus. After changing the FFT export files setting to > "Complex (real+imaginary)" > it decodes perfectly :-) > > I have learn a lot this days. Will be updating some help files I'm > preparing to help my memory > and others on this issue. Thanks again Markus and Stefan > > Yes. Next step will be to transmit a message with the proper antenna. > But may be still without > Mosfet. Will be interesting to check what can I do with 100mW and > EbNaut. With 30W I got > many Opera32 decodes at Markus grabber > > 73 de Luis > EA5DOM > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de DK7FC > [selberdenken@posteo.de] > *Enviado:* jueves, 13 de septiembre de 2018 13:19 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* Re: LF: The return of EbNaut for Dummies > > Hi Luis, > > Time to connect a MOSFET to the MOSFET-driver! > > 73, Stefan > > PS: Don't forget the LPF :-) > > Am 13.09.2018 13:03, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández: >> >> Hi Stefan >> >> The FFT lenght is 32768 and the exported FFT bins are 16384. Anyway >> the .usr file is attached >> >> The signal is almost 20dB over noise at 5mHz bandwidth. Clearly >> visible and I can also see the sidebands in other (faster) instance >> >> when modulating phase at 0.1 s rate. The power is very small. Just >> what I can get from a MIC4452 mosfet driver at 12V and >> >> the Tx antenna is just a 5cm piece of wire. The Rx antenna at about >> 15m away in the roof >> >> Transmitting from my QTH with the big antenna and same power produces >> a similar S/N >> >> But then we add the posibility of a timing offset to the puzzle L >> >> 73 de Luis >> >> EA5DOM >> >> --------------040906090501010006090501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Luis,

Congrats to your success.
We're looking forward to your messages.

Try to apply that 100 mW to your antenna. It is not unlikely that it can be decoded in DL!
For example, try http://abelian.org/ebnaut/calc.php?sndb=0&snbws=0.022&snmps=&code=16K21&sp=2&crc=16&nc=3&submit=Calculate

73, Stefan



Am 13.09.2018 15:12, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández:
Hi Stefan, Markus, EbNaut

Confirmed Markus. After changing the FFT export files setting to "Complex (real+imaginary)"
it decodes perfectly :-)

I have learn a lot this days. Will be updating some help files I'm preparing to help my memory
and others on this issue. Thanks again Markus and Stefan

Yes. Next step will be to transmit a message with the proper antenna. But may be still without
Mosfet. Will be interesting to check what can I do with 100mW and EbNaut. With 30W I got
many Opera32 decodes at Markus grabber

73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de DK7FC [selberdenken@posteo.de]
Enviado: jueves, 13 de septiembre de 2018 13:19
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: The return of EbNaut for Dummies

Hi Luis,

Time to connect a MOSFET to the MOSFET-driver!

73, Stefan

PS: Don't forget the LPF :-)

Am 13.09.2018 13:03, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández:

Hi Stefan

 

The FFT lenght is 32768 and the exported FFT bins are 16384. Anyway the .usr file is attached

 

The  signal is almost 20dB over noise at 5mHz bandwidth. Clearly visible and I can also see the sidebands in other (faster) instance

when modulating phase at 0.1 s rate. The power is very small. Just what I can get from a MIC4452 mosfet driver at 12V and

the Tx antenna is just a 5cm piece of wire. The Rx antenna at about 15m away in the roof

 

Transmitting from my QTH with the big antenna and same power produces a similar S/N

But then we add the posibility of a timing offset to the puzzle L

 

73 de Luis

EA5DOM


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