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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hello Markus, Since 17:38 UTC i'm again TXing each 10 minutes. Now the wire is configured as a dipole on the ground. For resonating a switchable inductor was available. I took the maximum value of 300 uH which leads to a clear increase of the antenna current and a good looking current wave form. But it seems not to be the optimum. Also the transformer could be further optimised. Now the PA takes 0.85 A, yesterday it was 1.05 A. So the TX power should be a bit lower now. I measured 220 mA (rms) antenna current, -1.5 dB less than yesterday. As you say, the efficiency seems to be worse. But maybe there will be an interesting difference in the night propagation results. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: b14bcaca65d4b584f77d02a84d381cb4 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137 kHz WSPR-2 on a 900m long ground loop, this weekend Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010805090702080402040500" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010805090702080402040500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Markus, Since 17:38 UTC i'm again TXing each 10 minutes. Now the wire is configured as a dipole on the ground. For resonating a switchable inductor was available. I took the maximum value of 300 uH which leads to a clear increase of the antenna current and a good looking current wave form. But it seems not to be the optimum. Also the transformer could be further optimised. Now the PA takes 0.85 A, yesterday it was 1.05 A. So the TX power should be a bit lower now. I measured 220 mA (rms) antenna current, -1.5 dB less than yesterday. As you say, the efficiency seems to be worse. But maybe there will be an interesting difference in the night propagation results. I will run the transmissions until about 7 UTC and then finish the experiment. Thanks again to all reporting stations. 73, Stefan Am 09.09.2018 19:46, schrieb Markus Vester: > Hi Stefan, > > the three transmissions after 17:24 were about 2.5 uV/m here, i.e. 6 > dB less than the prior configuration. But this may depend on direction. > > Best 73, > Markus > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: DK7FC > An: rsgb_lf_group > Verschickt: So, 9. Sept 2018 18:50 > Betreff: Re: LF: Re: 137 kHz WSPR-2 on a 900m long ground loop, this > weekend > > LF, > > I will no disconnect the grounded ends of the antenna and try to match > it as a dipole. No idea if this will work with the components i have > available here. But i think i will come backon air later... > > 73, Stefan --------------010805090702080402040500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Markus,

Since 17:38 UTC i'm again TXing each 10 minutes. Now the wire is configured as a dipole on the ground. For resonating a switchable inductor was available. I took the maximum value of 300 uH which leads to a clear increase of the antenna current and a good looking current wave form. But it seems not to be the optimum. Also the transformer could be further optimised. Now the PA takes 0.85 A, yesterday it was 1.05 A. So the TX power should be a bit lower now. I measured 220 mA (rms) antenna current, -1.5 dB less than yesterday.
As you say, the efficiency seems to be worse. But maybe there will be an interesting difference in the night propagation results.

I will run the transmissions until about 7 UTC and then finish the experiment.

Thanks again to all reporting stations.

73, Stefan

Am 09.09.2018 19:46, schrieb Markus Vester:
Hi Stefan,

the three transmissions after 17:24 were about 2.5 uV/m here, i.e. 6 dB less than the prior configuration. But this may depend on direction.

Best 73,
Markus



-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 9. Sept 2018 18:50
Betreff: Re: LF: Re: 137 kHz WSPR-2 on a 900m long ground loop, this weekend

LF,

I will no disconnect the grounded ends of the antenna and try to match it as a dipole. No idea if this will work with the components i have available here. But i think i will come backon air later...

73, Stefan
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