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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Paul, Am 06.09.2018 13:03, schrieb N1BUG: > I have been trying for almost a year to get WSJT-X 0.95 to run under > Windows 10 but it keeps crashing. Unfortunately I do not have a PC > with an older version of Windows I can try. I do not know if Windows > 10 is the problem or whether 0.95 was simply never stable. I remember it worked well. But of course not on Windows10. > Even if I could get 0.95 to stay running, QSO > partners would be limited. I know that others have tried and failed > with this version. > QSO partners will be very limited anyway. They didn't fail with this version, they failed with Windows10! 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Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030004020109050809090700" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030004020109050809090700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul, Am 06.09.2018 13:03, schrieb N1BUG: > I have been trying for almost a year to get WSJT-X 0.95 to run under > Windows 10 but it keeps crashing. Unfortunately I do not have a PC > with an older version of Windows I can try. I do not know if Windows > 10 is the problem or whether 0.95 was simply never stable. I remember it worked well. But of course not on Windows10. > Even if I could get 0.95 to stay running, QSO > partners would be limited. I know that others have tried and failed > with this version. > QSO partners will be very limited anyway. They didn't fail with this version, they failed with Windows10! > I guess we are stuck with DFCW. Old school still works but I would > like some other alternatives. > As mentioned, there is the special program from DF6NM which allows to run WSPR-15 together with the latest version of WSPR-2. But it is not just a thing of a few mouse clicks to get it running. You need to learn how it works and how to install, which already leads to limited QSO partners... 73, Stefan PS: Two old email attached. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: For those interested, the slowWSPR utilities can be downloaded at http://df6nm.bplaced.net/wspr/slowWSPR.zip (97 kB) There is a readme file which will hopefully give you an idea of how to proceed. But beware, this is all very improvised, please don't expect plug and play... [...] Content analysis details: (-0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [205.188.91.97 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 131286aabc28dd54c072e5e89638c651 Subject: LF: Experimental software for WSPR-8 and -32 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CD9854.4C1DD230" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CD9854.4C1DD230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those interested, the slowWSPR utilities can be downloaded at http://df6nm.bplaced.net/wspr/slowWSPR.zip (97 kB) There is a readme file which will hopefully give you an idea of how to = proceed. But beware, this is all very improvised, please don't expect = plug and play... Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Markus Vester=20 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:07 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: WSPR-8 Test First decodes using 8-minute WSPR: 2012-09-21 00:00 DK7FC 0.137508 +7 0 JN49ik 1 DF6NM = JN59nj 175 91 =20 2012-09-20 23:52 DK7FC 0.137508 +3 0 JN49ik 1 DF6NM = JN59nj 175 91 =20 2012-09-20 23:44 DK7FC 0.137508 -4 0 JN49ik 1 DF6NM = JN59nj 175 91 =20 Between 23:36 and 23:43:20, Stefan was transmitting 8-times slow WSPR = with low power on 136172 Hz. This was recorded here to an IQ file using = SndInput from DL4YHF, and replayed 8x fast during the next 2-minute = slot, starting 23:44. In the process the audio was frequency shifted = from 670 to 2000 Hz, and added to the normal audio data for WSPR. Thus = with the 4x acceleration, Stefan's transmission appeared 8 instead of 2 = Hz above center. This is all still a bit improvised, but the concept seems to work. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CD9854.4C1DD230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For those interested, the = slowWSPR utilities=20 can be downloaded at
 
http://df6nm.bplaced.= net/wspr/slowWSPR.zip (97=20 kB)
 
There is a readme file which will = hopefully give=20 you an idea of how to proceed. But beware, this is all very improvised, = please=20 don't expect plug and play...
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 

From: Markus Vester
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:07 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: WSPR-8 Test

First decodes using 8-minute=20 WSPR:
 
2012-09-21 00:00   = DK7FC  =20 0.137508   +7   0   JN49ik  =20 1   DF6NM   JN59nj   175   = 91 =20
2012-09-20 23:52   = DK7FC  =20 0.137508   +3   0   JN49ik  =20 1   DF6NM   JN59nj   175   = 91 =20
2012-09-20 23:44   DK7FC   0.137508  =20 -4   0   JN49ik   1   = DF6NM  =20 JN59nj   175   91 
Between 23:36 and 23:43:20, Stefan was=20 transmitting 8-times slow WSPR with low power on 136172 Hz. This = was=20 recorded here to an IQ file using SndInput from DL4YHF, and replayed 8x=20 fast during the next 2-minute slot, starting 23:44. In the process = the=20 audio was frequency shifted from 670 to 2000 Hz, and added to the = normal=20 audio data for WSPR.  Thus with the 4x acceleration, Stefan's=20 transmission appeared 8 instead of 2 Hz above center.
 
This is all still a bit improvised, but = the concept=20 seems to work.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan Thanks for the test signal ... and thanks to Markus and Wolf for the tools! Got in early evening and was hurrying to get things patched together and lined up ... thus the frequency mistke on the first decode. [...] Content analysis details: (2.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [76.96.59.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jrusgrove[at]comcast.net) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 2.9 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_4379D AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_4379D X-Scan-Signature: fb42d311bf65eb51bbb8124890b4f977 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Experimental software for WSPR-8 and -32 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01CD9904.9EF92760" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CD9904.9EF92760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Thanks for the test signal ... and thanks to Markus and Wolf for the tools! Got in early evening and was hurrying to get things patched together and lined up ... thus the frequency mistke on the first decode. Dst is at a favorable at -16 nT but static is up a bit tonight due to a cold front approaching to the west. In fact, thunderstorms are predicted so I may have to make a quick exit a bit later! Congrats to you and Markus! Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Stefan Schäfer To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Experimental software for WSPR-8 and -32 Jay, Thank you once again! Congrats to your equipment! Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az 2012-09-23 00:08 DK7FC 0.136164 -27 0 JN49ik 1 W1VD FN31ls 6099 295 2012-09-22 23:48 DK7FC 0.136223 -26 0 JN49ik 1 W1VD FN31ls 6099 295 How do you estimate the conds today? From your experience, is the SNR improvement of WSPR-8 significantly? Hard to estimate if it is really 6 dB... Will see how things proceed in the night. 8 minutes is still a good time to detect changes in propagation.. 73, Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CD9904.9EF92760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Stefan
 
Thanks for the test signal ... and = thanks=20 to Markus and Wolf for the tools! Got in early evening and was = hurrying to=20 get things patched together and lined up ... thus the = frequency mistke on=20 the first decode.
 
Dst is at a favorable at -16 nT but = static is up a=20 bit tonight due to a cold front approaching to the west. In fact, = thunderstorms=20 are predicted so I may have to make a quick exit a bit = later!
 
Congrats to you and = Markus!
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  = WE2XGR/2
   
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Stefan = Sch=C3=A4fer
Sent: Saturday, September 22, = 2012 8:21=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: = Experimental=20 software for WSPR-8 and -32

Jay,

Thank you once again! Congrats to your=20 equipment!

Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
 2012-09-23 00:08   DK7FC   0.136164   -27   0   JN49ik   1   W1VD   FN31ls   6099   295 
 2012-09-22 23:48   DK7FC   0.136223   -26   0   JN49ik   1   W1VD   FN31ls   6099   295 

How = do you=20 estimate the conds today? From your experience, is the SNR improvement = of=20 WSPR-8 significantly? Hard to estimate if it is really 6 dB...
Will = see how=20 things proceed in the night.
8 minutes is still a good time to = detect=20 changes in propagation..

73, = Stefan/DK7FC
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