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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hello Roman, Yes maybe i'll build a quick PA tomorrow for LF and will transmit on LF for 24 hours, each 10 minutes, WSPR-2. I have no idea at all how this antenna performs on 137 kHz. Is it still a loop or rather a dipole or a mixture? At least it has about the length of a full size dipole for 137 kHz. I would TX at 10 W RF power only, so that a small accu covers some hours. But i'm not yet sure if i can find the time to do it tomorrow. 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I have no idea at all how this antenna performs on 137 kHz. Is it still a loop or rather a dipole or a mixture? At least it has about the length of a full size dipole for 137 kHz. I would TX at 10 W RF power only, so that a small accu covers some hours. But i'm not yet sure if i can find the time to do it tomorrow. 73, Stefan PS: If the antenna acts as a dipole, then it is beaming to Russia directly. Am 05.09.2018 21:42, schrieb Roman: > Congrts, Stefan! > > We are follow by your success! > Listen, do you planning to operate 136 kHz, I hear, tell me pse - do you planing try to TX with that ant on 477 kHz and 160M? > I will be interestin to hear about results. > > 73! > Roman > > > >> ULF, >> >> Last sunday i finally managed to detect a carrier transmission on the >> 191 km band in the far field. In fact the distance is higher than 1/4 >> wavelength. A new lowest frequency of a signal generated by amateurs, >> detected in the far field. >> >> At 250 W RF power i transmitted for 2 hours (starting 08:08 UTC) on my >> 900m long ground loop antenna. It seems to be a very hard band with poor >> propagation. Furthermore my RX antenna becomes deaf below 2 kHz. So the >> S/N is much lower as expected when comparing to the results at 1970 Hz. >> Two spectrograms are arrached, showing the short trace in 424 uHz and >> 212 uHz. >> >> Before finally entering the far field in the frequency range below 1 kHz >> it may be necessary to build up an E field RX at the RX QTH. I first >> step for that was done yesterday. >> >> To be continued... >> >> 73, Stefan >>