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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hello Jeff, Am 12.07.2018 22:21, schrieb F6CWN: > > It's a pleasure when it works! > My experience balloon and kite (Spountnik loads tests a few years ago, > launched since MIR, a great thing too!): Do not use plastic wrapped > wire (static electricity, several KV!). > Do not forget a resistance (~ 500 K Ohms 2W) between the antenna and > the ground otherwise it is very unpleasant! (Hi!) > I hope to contact you this winter, here I use a kite (6m ²) and > aluminum wire (1.6 or 0.8mm diameter). Tests have been done on 160m > and it works very well, I hope to reproduce these tests on 136 KHz > (QRSS and normal CW), always with a kite (helium and the balloon are > too expensive for me). > VY 73 Alex and thank you again for the report. > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.65 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: cd16d8c2fb75309db133b7de4adb1391 Subject: Re: LF: Re[2]: LF: RN3AUS 136 khz TX now! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010203080602090908080904" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010203080602090908080904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jeff, Am 12.07.2018 22:21, schrieb F6CWN: > > It's a pleasure when it works! > My experience balloon and kite (Spountnik loads tests a few years ago, > launched since MIR, a great thing too!): Do not use plastic wrapped > wire (static electricity, several KV!). > Do not forget a resistance (~ 500 K Ohms 2W) between the antenna and > the ground otherwise it is very unpleasant! (Hi!) > I hope to contact you this winter, here I use a kite (6m ²) and > aluminum wire (1.6 or 0.8mm diameter). Tests have been done on 160m > and it works very well, I hope to reproduce these tests on 136 KHz > (QRSS and normal CW), always with a kite (helium and the balloon are > too expensive for me). > VY 73 Alex and thank you again for the report. > Great! I'm looking forward to your signal. Some years ago i also worked with kite antennas on LF and VLF. In the first experiments i've built e.g. a J-antenna for 160m, i.e. a 82m vertical wire and a transformer cable to transform to 50 Ohm. A used a call-E PA running 600 W at 160m. The PA worked at 36 V (using 4x IRFP 260N), 3 car batteries switched in series :-) It was all portable and i had CW QSOs with Japan on 160m m at lower power levels :-) Great great great times! What type of kite are you using for your experiments? Good luck to all kite transmitting stations :-) 73, Stefan --------------010203080602090908080904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jeff,

Am 12.07.2018 22:21, schrieb F6CWN:

It's a pleasure when it works!
My experience balloon and kite (Spountnik loads tests a few years ago, launched since MIR, a great thing too!): Do not use plastic wrapped wire (static electricity, several KV!).
Do not forget a resistance (~ 500 K Ohms 2W) between the antenna and the ground otherwise it is very unpleasant! (Hi!)
I hope to contact you this winter, here I use a kite (6m ²) and aluminum wire (1.6 or 0.8mm diameter). Tests have been done on 160m and it works very well, I hope to reproduce these tests on 136 KHz (QRSS and normal CW), always with a kite (helium and the balloon are too expensive for me).
VY 73 Alex and thank you again for the report.


Great! I'm looking forward to your signal. Some years ago i also worked with kite antennas on LF and VLF. In the first experiments i've built e.g. a J-antenna for 160m, i.e. a 82m vertical wire and a transformer cable to transform to 50 Ohm. A used a call-E PA running 600 W at 160m. The PA worked at 36 V (using 4x IRFP 260N), 3 car batteries switched in series :-) It was all portable and i had CW QSOs with Japan on 160m m at lower power levels :-)
Great great great times!

What type of kite are you using for your experiments?

Good luck to all kite transmitting stations :-)

73, Stefan
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