Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w668SffF008886 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:28:43 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1fbLuM-0007wF-2l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:16:02 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1fbLuI-0007w4-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:15:58 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91_59-0488984) (envelope-from ) id 1fbLuF-0001E0-G5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:15:57 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 347B320BB2 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:15:52 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=posteo.de Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1530864953; bh=K1AF/4pHindcW8VTnfIPnpya3BsMEz3yDWiX31xYFCE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=mW9VPpY3JDU/JaO0jskxpAmYsR3Q6nARZqvNq20f7yuNFleHFX1/IAGiHYVwYPwZ5 tyueJuqVkZWNM1lMD7cRoPuKv00bfNKwUs8abSpYAtKLCcOCP3fraKQCn5tVIrwZeq jpAAsyYE08NdVwbijF9xmOc13aBIGCu+eri9vn5FL+JfUaWSFS7aBUE4FyhMHst2If u8zmhvJMCvYyyHXuRcvTlAH/zqNc3ezdT7CHvAjUsK6qqPH1opwXtNmrDck1hd7ZH3 zXoApfGQEvn4QRGU9jucDi2KomqWrB17ToXVzZBsFkPWsqMO4dzKXzZS2HS+rfBr6o FmPTWja7Wve1g== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 41MSGb5l8Mz9rxW for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5B3F2536.3040408@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:15:50 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: , , <5B38A763.17452.850587@roelof.ndb.demon.nl> <5B3BB75F.9030305@posteo.de> <000601d41303$c6719870$5354c950$@go2.pl> <5B3BEDA5.9050902@posteo.de> <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA08524F3A@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA08524F3A@servigilant.vigilant.local> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Am 04.07.2018 18:51, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández: > > Mmmm. Kite antennas are for summer ;-) > What? Ehm, no. They are for winter! :-) See: http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/VLF/300m%20VLF%20kite%20vertical.jpg [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.65 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: d63ea50e288c5ecb9bd7a86eeabe94f2 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Summer games / EARTH ANTENNAS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070708010706020401040104" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070708010706020401040104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Am 04.07.2018 18:51, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández: > > Mmmm. Kite antennas are for summer ;-) > What? Ehm, no. They are for winter! :-) See: http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/VLF/300m%20VLF%20kite%20vertical.jpg Helium is much to expensive and you can use the baloon just one time, then you have to release the gas again. This is not practical! And if there is strong wind, the baloon is not very stable, expect you make it much larger than necessary, so there is a strong force on the wire. A kite however can stay stable in the air for hours! Once i kept it in the air (including a 100m wire connected) for > 24 hours. Everyone (even if retired!) can buy a kite and some string and rise it somewhere :-) 73, Stefan --------------070708010706020401040104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Am 04.07.2018 18:51, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández:

Mmmm. Kite antennas are for summer ;-)


What? Ehm, no. They are for winter! :-)
See: http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/VLF/300m%20VLF%20kite%20vertical.jpg

Helium is much to expensive and you can use the baloon just one time, then you have to release the gas again. This is not practical! And if there is strong wind, the baloon is not very stable, expect you make it much larger than necessary, so there is a strong force on the wire.

A kite however can stay stable in the air for hours! Once i kept it in the air (including a 100m wire connected) for > 24 hours. Everyone (even if retired!) can buy a kite and some string and rise it somewhere :-)

73, Stefan
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