Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w4PC037D022423 for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 14:00:04 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1fMBIn-0005Uv-Rm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 12:54:33 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1fMBIl-0005Um-VT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 12:54:31 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91_59-0488984) (envelope-from ) id 1fMBIi-0003mZ-2L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 12:54:30 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CED652108C for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 13:54:24 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=posteo.de Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1527249265; bh=wnH7H5dhBWmCsQvj3v7RJKVdkS9cdNkKPGc2TkSJPP0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=B8dnRtab2tPQ8cdZglo9e6991eyxIoD5Q7JPzKT0SqpVafMNXrtdDAoQIbxfP0kY8 Z/wcWo+4+DajmflqPRwAua5Tf5QoU6cazk8fgUvjKFuT696QuTH/c51zzc36pH7wiH pwMdqjPYVZfblt+1KeKcvDTrLiXvvtYjrHGRKfxKg/+unbAkjIRBGFkSTAo/MSNlMA xpP+NQFDP53Syi6RnDpRwZXIXTDn8LFvJoxv4MXFk8aBMexIpQbf7d3akcXlHBhzGP f99tVrRf/nvGt1QVpZrA+0qD5wGSsc0wUPfMPw2Q5jDnZO6MhPREWvRNJH+wDG2I8X KSdaeaKYhwcbg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 40sl6718R3z9rxw for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 13:54:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5B07F968.7060002@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 13:54:16 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA0AF05B@servigilant.vigilant.local> <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA0AF31C@servigilant.vigilant.local> <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA0AF43B@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA0AF43B@servigilant.vigilant.local> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Luis, LF, The upper end of the spectrum is much more popular somehow. Such videos would also be helpful to rise the interest in LF, but i don't know a similar one, except the SAQ and other commercial stuff of course. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.65 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 AC_DIV_BONANZA RAW: Too many divs in a row... spammy template 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 3a7d2580219899bea7e4eb8b52d0a8b8 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030208020305030802040109" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030208020305030802040109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Luis, LF, The upper end of the spectrum is much more popular somehow. Such videos would also be helpful to rise the interest in LF, but i don't know a similar one, except the SAQ and other commercial stuff of course. On the other side, watching a video showing a "CQ EA5DOM" coming in in QRSS-6000 may take a bit long... But certainly we could also offer fascinating videos showing what we do... 73, Stefan Am 25.05.2018 13:06, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández: > > Hi Andy > > We do! J > > Last ODX two weeks ago was 303km in 47GHz > > And also in digimodes, FT4 and Opera, but we didn’t try FT8 > > There is also a video if you want to see the opposite side of the > spectrum going on > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INw8IJjn_LE > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *En nombre de *Andy Talbot > *Enviado el:* viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 12:47 > *Para:* LineOne > *Asunto:* Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots > > You could always try the microwave bands > > No dependence on the ionosphere > > Too frequency-unstable to support FT8 > > Equipment home-brewed > > Just as much fun... > > > Andy > > www.g4jnt.com > > On 25 May 2018 at 11:40, VIGILANT Luis Fernández > wrote: > > Hi Pascal, MF > > Uncharted territory. Or better said, it was a very well known > band in the past and now we have to re-discover > > Who knows ? > > The only CERTAIN is that all the radio universe will collapse into > a single black FT8 hole ;-) > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > ] *En nombre de *Pascal > Deveaux > *Enviado el:* viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 11:54 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Asunto:* Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots > > hello Luis, MF, > What will happen after the solstice? Will we have less luck? > > Le 25 mai 2018 12:40:50 GMT+04:00, "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" > > a écrit : > > Hi MF > > Last night two unique decodes from Pascal, FR5DH. There were > no decodes since may 21th > > 2018-05-25 01:30 > > > > EA5DOM > > > > 0.475608 > > > > -30 > > > > 0 > > > > IM98xn > > > > 1 > > > > FR5DH > > > > LG78pw > > > > 8783 > > > > 129 > > 2018-05-24 22:30 > > > > EA5DOM > > > > 0.475608 > > > > -26 > > > > 0 > > > > IM98xn > > > > 1 > > > > FR5DH > > > > LG78pw > > > > 8783 > > > > 129 > > The DST has been high this days but there were many Solar X > ray flares untill this settle down yesterday > > Almost one moth for solstice and counting ! ;-) > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *En nombre de > *VIGILANT Luis Fernández > *Enviado el:* lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 10:47 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Asunto:* LF: RV: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night > > Hi MF > > On more night of good conditions as DST keeps up > http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/dst_realtime/presentmonth/ > > 2018-05-21 > 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -31 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-21 > 00:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-20 > 23:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-20 > 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 > 23:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -24 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-20 > 23:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *En nombre de > *VIGILANT Luis Fernández > *Enviado el:* domingo, 20 de mayo de 2018 13:08 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Asunto:* LF: Re: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night > > Hi Pascal, MF > > Last night we got some spots again > > 2018-05-20 > 01:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-20 > 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-20 > 01:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-19 > 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -32 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-19 > 21:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-19 > 21:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-19 > 21:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 2018-05-19 > 20:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -31 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > I'm afraid (and really hope) that there is no correlation > between earthquakes and MF propagation > > But really wondering why I'm getting so good chances in this > path. It is not by brute force and ERP power > > So, the other possibility is antenna radiation pattern in > vertical plane. The 90m vertical has probably a > > very low radiation pattern. And at sea coast that means even > more chances to get a very flat take off > > angle to FR5. So low that may be I can reach there with four > hops instead of five, which would be the > > case for an average antenna with higer radiation angle > > Four hops for 8783Km distance is about 2196Km per hop. Which > is under the theoretical maximum > > of 2235Km for an E layer situated at 100Km height > > Path profile from here to Reunion, providing four 2196Km hops > shows that first hop would land in south > > Libya desert area, second in Sudan desert and third into the > ocean, not far away from the coast of Kenia > > That third bouncing in sea water would be a bonus for a weak > signal to reach Reunion in the next bounce at > > decodable levels. With five shorter hops the third would land > on ground and the extra attenuation may > > left no much for a fourth hop to the ocean and then a five one > > This are just my thoughts. Would be interesting to know > experts opinion > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > ] en nombre de > Pascal Deveaux [fr5dh@hotmail.com ] > *Enviado:* sábado, 19 de mayo de 2018 7:50 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Asunto:* LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night > > Hi MF, > I am not a specialist in the MF propagation and earthquakes, > but I ask if the recent earthquakes in Mayotte Island have > influenced the reception here. Mayotte is on the path between > EA and FR: > > > 2018-05-19 > 02:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 > 01:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -26 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 > 01:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -27 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 > 01:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 > 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -26 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 > 00:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 > 00:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-19 > 00:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 > 23:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 > 23:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -20 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 > 22:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 > 22:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 > 22:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 > 22:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -27 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 > 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -23 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 2018-05-18 > 21:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > > 73, Pascal > > > 73, > Pascal (FR5DH) > --------------030208020305030802040109 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Luis, LF,

The upper end of the spectrum is much more popular somehow.
Such videos would also be helpful to rise the interest in LF, but i don't know a similar one, except the SAQ and other commercial stuff of course.

On the other side, watching a video showing a "CQ EA5DOM" coming in in QRSS-6000 may take a bit long...
But certainly we could also offer fascinating videos showing what we do...

73, Stefan

Am 25.05.2018 13:06, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández:

Hi Andy

 

We do! J

 

Last ODX two weeks ago was 303km in 47GHz

And also in digimodes, FT4 and Opera, but we didn’t try FT8

 

There is also a video if you want to see the opposite side of the spectrum going on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INw8IJjn_LE

 

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

 

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Andy Talbot
Enviado el: viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 12:47
Para: LineOne <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots

 

You could always try the microwave bands

No dependence on the ionosphere

Too frequency-unstable to support FT8

Equipment home-brewed

Just as much fun...

 


Andy

 

 

On 25 May 2018 at 11:40, VIGILANT Luis Fernández <luis@vigilant.es> wrote:

Hi Pascal, MF

 

Uncharted territory. Or better said,  it was a very well known band in the past and now we have to re-discover

Who knows ?

 

The only CERTAIN is that all the radio universe will collapse into a single black FT8 hole  ;-)

 

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

 

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Pascal Deveaux
Enviado el: viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 11:54
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots

 

hello Luis, MF,
What will happen after the solstice? Will we have less luck?

Le 25 mai 2018 12:40:50 GMT+04:00, "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" <luis@vigilant.es> a écrit :

Hi  MF

 

Last night two unique decodes from Pascal, FR5DH. There were no decodes since may 21th

 

 2018-05-25 01:30 

 EA5DOM 

 0.475608 

 -30 

 0 

 IM98xn 

 1 

 FR5DH 

 LG78pw 

 8783 

 129 

 2018-05-24 22:30 

 EA5DOM 

 0.475608 

 -26 

 0 

 IM98xn 

 1 

 FR5DH 

 LG78pw 

 8783 

 129 

 

The DST has been high this days but there were many Solar X ray flares untill this settle down yesterday

 

Almost one moth for solstice and counting ! ;-)

 

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

 

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de VIGILANT Luis Fernández
Enviado el: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 10:47
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: RV: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night

 

Hi MF

 

On more night of good conditions as DST keeps up http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/dst_realtime/presentmonth/

 

2018-05-21 01:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -31  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  

2018-05-21 00:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -29  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  

2018-05-20 23:50  EA5DOM  0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  

2018-05-20 23:40  EA5DOM  0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129

2018-05-20 23:10  EA5DOM  0.475608  -24  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129 

2018-05-20 23:00  EA5DOM  0.475608  -29  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129 

 

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

 

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de VIGILANT Luis Fernández
Enviado el: domingo, 20 de mayo de 2018 13:08
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: Re: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night

 

Hi Pascal, MF

 

Last night we got some spots again

 

2018-05-20 01:40  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  

2018-05-20 01:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  

2018-05-20 01:00  EA5DOM  0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  

2018-05-19 23:40  EA5DOM  0.475608  -32  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  

2018-05-19 21:30  EA5DOM  0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  

2018-05-19 21:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  

2018-05-19 21:00  EA5DOM  0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  

2018-05-19 20:10  EA5DOM  0.475608  -31  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129 

 

I'm afraid (and really hope) that there is no correlation between earthquakes and MF propagation

 

But really wondering why I'm getting so good chances in this path. It is not by brute force and ERP power

So, the other possibility is antenna radiation pattern in vertical plane. The 90m vertical has probably a

very low radiation pattern. And at sea coast that means even more chances to get a very flat take off

angle to FR5. So low that may be I can reach there with four hops instead of five, which would be the

case for an average antenna with higer radiation angle

 

Four hops for 8783Km distance is about 2196Km per hop. Which is under the theoretical maximum

of 2235Km for an E layer situated at 100Km height

 

Path profile from here to Reunion, providing four 2196Km hops shows that first hop would land in south

Libya desert area, second in Sudan desert and third into the ocean, not far away from the coast of Kenia

That third bouncing in sea water would be a bonus for a weak signal to reach Reunion in the next bounce at 

decodable levels. With five shorter hops the third would land on ground and the extra attenuation may

left no much for a fourth hop to the ocean and then a five one

 

This are just my thoughts. Would be interesting to know experts opinion

 

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Pascal Deveaux [fr5dh@hotmail.com]
Enviado: sábado, 19 de mayo de 2018 7:50
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night

Hi MF,
I am not a specialist in the MF propagation and earthquakes, but I ask if the recent earthquakes in Mayotte Island have influenced the reception here. Mayotte is on the path between EA and FR:


 2018-05-19 02:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-19 01:50  EA5DOM  0.475608  -26  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-19 01:40  EA5DOM  0.475608  -27  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-19 01:30  EA5DOM  0.475608  -29  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-19 01:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -26  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-19 00:50  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-19 00:30  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-19 00:00  EA5DOM  0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-18 23:30  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-18 23:10  EA5DOM  0.475608  -20  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-18 22:50  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-18 22:30  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-18 22:20  EA5DOM  0.475608  -30  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-18 22:10  EA5DOM  0.475608  -27  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-18 22:00  EA5DOM  0.475608  -23  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129  2018-05-18 21:10  EA5DOM  0.475608  -28  0  IM98xn  1  FR5DH  LG78pw  8783  129 

73, Pascal


73,
Pascal (FR5DH)

 

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