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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Update: 4 files are now available for stacking in that experiment. The noise has been higher in the recent days, or there are some technical problems, or changing daily phases (propagation), that's uncertain. Jay provides the files for analysis here. I'm in an advanced position because i know the correct message already. So i can run the decoder on a list length as large as the PC can handle and search for the correct message thereafter. Oh and i can reconstruct the carrier and its spectrum peak and see if it is growing daily. Still no sign of the message here but i can see a growing peak. That's exciting... 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060806070504000900010503" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060806070504000900010503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Update: 4 files are now available for stacking in that experiment. The noise has been higher in the recent days, or there are some technical problems, or changing daily phases (propagation), that's uncertain. Jay provides the files for analysis here. I'm in an advanced position because i know the correct message already. So i can run the decoder on a list length as large as the PC can handle and search for the correct message thereafter. Oh and i can reconstruct the carrier and its spectrum peak and see if it is growing daily. Still no sign of the message here but i can see a growing peak. That's exciting... Hopefully tomorrow will show up something. 73, Stefan Am 25.02.2018 23:17, schrieb DK7FC: > Hi Jay, VLF, > > A great success again! Thanks for your efforts on the RX side. And > congrats to that result! > It was exciting and interesting to follow the rising Eb/N0 and the > daily variations when using the -f16 function in the Linux decoder. > It can be quite an effort to tweak out the last 0.05 dB in the hope to > find the correct message then, by varying time offsets and weighting. > I am learning a bit more each time i follow the decode process here on > the TX side by analysing the wav files you kindly provided. > > We are now leaving the winter season. The QRN has been clearly > stronger during the last nights. There are regular thunderstorms in > south Italy and Greece now. > > A longer message is realistic. Let us try 5 characters now: > > *f = 8270.1000 Hz > Start time: 25.FEB.2018 22:30:00 UTC (daily) > Symbol period: 24 s > Characters: 5 > CRC bits: 18 > Coding 16K21A > Duration: 07:15:12 [hh:mm:ss] > Antenna current: 700 mA* > > I bet you will get the result after 4 days of stacking! Let's see! > Good luck! > > 73, Stefan --------------060806070504000900010503 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Update:
4 files are now available for stacking in that experiment. The noise has been higher in the recent days, or there are some technical problems, or changing daily phases (propagation), that's uncertain.
Jay provides the files for analysis here. I'm in an advanced position because i know the correct message already. So i can run the decoder on a list length as large as the PC can handle and search for the correct message thereafter. Oh and i can reconstruct the carrier and its spectrum peak and see if it is growing daily. Still no sign of the message here but i can see a growing peak. That's exciting...

Hopefully tomorrow will show up something.

73, Stefan



Am 25.02.2018 23:17, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi Jay, VLF,

A great success again! Thanks for your efforts on the RX side. And congrats to that result!
It was exciting and interesting to follow the rising Eb/N0 and the daily variations when using the -f16 function in the Linux decoder.
It can be quite an effort to tweak out the last 0.05 dB in the hope to find the correct message then, by varying time offsets and weighting. I am learning a bit more each time i follow the decode process here on the TX side by analysing the wav files you kindly provided.

We are now leaving the winter season. The QRN has been clearly stronger during the last nights. There are regular thunderstorms in south Italy and Greece now.

A longer message is realistic. Let us try 5 characters now:

f = 8270.1000 Hz
Start time: 25.FEB.2018  22:30:00 UTC (daily)
Symbol period: 24 s
Characters: 5
CRC bits: 18
Coding 16K21A
Duration: 07:15:12 [hh:mm:ss]
Antenna current: 700 mA


I bet you will get the result after 4 days of stacking! Let's see! Good luck!

73, Stefan
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