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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Edgar, HWU reaches a respectable strength during times of best propagation. That makes hope. The big question is, how stable is the phase during the times of best SNR. There seems to be a window between 16...23 UTC with daily changing SNR vs. time, i.e. QSB. I expect that QSB means an unstable phase! [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: ead411ce91f9601ce3974c7575797436 Subject: Re: LF: DL to VK7 ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080503080804060109000104" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080503080804060109000104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Edgar, HWU reaches a respectable strength during times of best propagation. That makes hope. The big question is, how stable is the phase during the times of best SNR. There seems to be a window between 16...23 UTC with daily changing SNR vs. time, i.e. QSB. I expect that QSB means an unstable phase! For the time window (7 hours) and expected phase stability it may be good to run one of the well known 424 uHz spectrograms. But that may not be sensitive enough to show a trace of my signal. But what do you do if there is a trace suddenly! Just imagine, like in the old LF times. The other idea is to try 1 character EbNaut messages, instead of a single 4...7 hour message we could try to repeat 1 hour long messages and then try to stack them or try to check if the message can be found just below the decode level (using the Linux decoder). This is probably more likely to work. Another question may be, is the relative rapidly changing phase repeatable over some days? If so, we could stack these 1 hour messages segment wise... So far, after two days, no sign of the 5 char message on Jay's side, but we'll continue tonite! 73, Stefan Am 27.02.2018 09:23, schrieb Edgar: > > Is it possible? Reception at Moonah, Tasmania. > > > > Regards, Edgar > Moonah,Tasmania. --------------080503080804060109000104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Edgar,

HWU reaches a respectable strength during times of best propagation. That makes hope.
The big question is, how stable is the phase during the times of best SNR.
There seems to be a window between 16...23 UTC with daily changing SNR vs. time, i.e. QSB. I expect that QSB means an unstable phase!

For the time window (7 hours) and expected phase stability it may be good to run one of the well known 424 uHz spectrograms. But that may not be sensitive enough to show a trace of my signal.
But what do you do if there is a trace suddenly! Just imagine, like in the old LF times.

The other idea is to try 1 character EbNaut messages, instead of a single 4...7 hour message we could try to repeat 1 hour long messages and then try to stack them or try to check if the message can be found just below the decode level (using the Linux decoder). This is probably more likely to work.

Another question may be, is the relative rapidly changing phase repeatable over some days? If so, we could stack these 1 hour messages segment wise...

So far, after two days, no sign of the 5 char message on Jay's side, but we'll continue tonite!

73, Stefan


Am 27.02.2018 09:23, schrieb Edgar:

Is it possible?  Reception at Moonah, Tasmania.



Regards, Edgar
Moonah,Tasmania.
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