Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w1JJ20JK006157 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:02:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1enqcN-0001wg-Nh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:56:51 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1enqcM-0001wW-UA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:56:50 +0000 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1enqcJ-0000s2-UW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:56:49 +0000 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF59720F31 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:56:45 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=posteo.de Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1519066606; bh=wzqCsHEk0VKZKmqc+ps6JyRC8NzfKGK/AHmx9sb4afc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=Nvth9c0ieS6jW0nZzP+FIO8/IjEB6O0iGnoXh7uFXWrmI6jNDZf2/FtPvILfBs3GK FZMk8LcvOABOxMXkkWc5ofQrenJmWClbiCcnRMAWa9b5Fcx0pzYD5mz0cd53vQr+fR +vN3gpBIfNT7v0kYJ/+3Wbx6IZzHlxASWSLbXQtnclbnYnI1/74uEvZHqu7H04LXR/ xLgdvb0FNZ6YSUs7X04DOaeIR9i6MlzXS2tEtMWF6bNv1xpc8vTq+TTvDO3L7BmMiN OAcKIzddevDvEigMArzcoJIW7vyh0886M4quRjBqTv6AXI0dT0qRCsb2LovOuA+Yml FJ7rwzA2Znang== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3zlXzJ2Gl3z9rxM for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:56:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5A8B1DEB.1040908@posteo.de> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:56:43 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1UQO4ZtP1S.4LaOD46xURL@optiplex980-pc> <5A8AE616.2030906@posteo.de> <5A8AE86A.50409@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <5A8AE86A.50409@posteo.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Correction: *Start time: 19.FEB.2018 22:30:00 UTC (daily)* Am 19.02.2018 16:08, schrieb DK7FC: > PS: 6099 km, my new ODX and > twice as far as the last ODX!! > > Am 19.02.2018 15:58, schrieb DK7FC: >> Hi Jay, VLF, >> >> An excellent achievement below 9 kHz! And even from a single night, >> without stacking!!! I expected we will need about a week, or even more. >> >> To leave a carrier trace or even a message decode over that path, >> from east to west, was one of the goals during the kite experiments >> in 2010/2011, where my ERP was 20 dB higher. We mever managed that. >> Until now! >> >> So maybe the E>W path is less than 20 dB harder. That opens the door >> for more imaginations about VLF DX, not only for me. >> >> We need to proove that this is reproducable :-) So let me try a 2 >> character message starting this night: >> >> *f = 8270.1000 Hz >> Start time: 19.FEB.2018 22:3:00 UTC (daily) >> Symbol period: 30 s >> Characters: 2 >> CRC bits: 22 >> Coding 16K21A >> Duration: 07:12 [hh:mm] >> Antenna current: 700 mA* >> >> In the attachment one can see the results put out by the Linux >> decoder running on the file you sent me this morning. Only right >> decodes and improving rank. >> >> Can we really expect 2 characters in 2 days? We will see! Let's go! >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> >> >> >> Am 19.02.2018 15:41, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net: >>> Stefan's transmission: >>> *f = 8270.1000 Hz >>> Start time: 12.FEB.2018 22:32:00 UTC (daily) >>> Symbol period: 32 s >>> Characters: 1 >>> CRC bits: 24 >>> Coding 16K21A >>> Duration: 07:06:40 [hh:mm:ss] >>> Antenna current: 700 mA* >>> After a week of trying ... including two nights with TX problems, >>> one night with RX problems and one night with high noise >>> levels ... a successful decode of Stefan's message was made on last >>> night's transmission. s/n in 39 uHz 10.5 dB and Eb/N0 2.54 dB. It >>> was pretty convincing as the decode popped up in the 0,0,0,0 phase >>> trial and only improved thereafter. >>> Congrats Stefan on what appears to be the first E>W T/A on Dreamers >>> Band! >>> Jay W1VD [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 54f9a9b24d9d5f31a632377c3b90b222 Subject: Re: VLF: DK7FC > W1VD 8.27 kHz EbN0 success! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050906010503040609030800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050906010503040609030800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Correction: *Start time: 19.FEB.2018 22:30:00 UTC (daily)* Am 19.02.2018 16:08, schrieb DK7FC: > PS: 6099 km, my new ODX and > twice as far as the last ODX!! > > Am 19.02.2018 15:58, schrieb DK7FC: >> Hi Jay, VLF, >> >> An excellent achievement below 9 kHz! And even from a single night, >> without stacking!!! I expected we will need about a week, or even more. >> >> To leave a carrier trace or even a message decode over that path, >> from east to west, was one of the goals during the kite experiments >> in 2010/2011, where my ERP was 20 dB higher. We mever managed that. >> Until now! >> >> So maybe the E>W path is less than 20 dB harder. That opens the door >> for more imaginations about VLF DX, not only for me. >> >> We need to proove that this is reproducable :-) So let me try a 2 >> character message starting this night: >> >> *f = 8270.1000 Hz >> Start time: 19.FEB.2018 22:3:00 UTC (daily) >> Symbol period: 30 s >> Characters: 2 >> CRC bits: 22 >> Coding 16K21A >> Duration: 07:12 [hh:mm] >> Antenna current: 700 mA* >> >> In the attachment one can see the results put out by the Linux >> decoder running on the file you sent me this morning. Only right >> decodes and improving rank. >> >> Can we really expect 2 characters in 2 days? We will see! Let's go! >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> >> >> >> Am 19.02.2018 15:41, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net: >>> Stefan's transmission: >>> *f = 8270.1000 Hz >>> Start time: 12.FEB.2018 22:32:00 UTC (daily) >>> Symbol period: 32 s >>> Characters: 1 >>> CRC bits: 24 >>> Coding 16K21A >>> Duration: 07:06:40 [hh:mm:ss] >>> Antenna current: 700 mA* >>> After a week of trying ... including two nights with TX problems, >>> one night with RX problems and one night with high noise >>> levels ... a successful decode of Stefan's message was made on last >>> night's transmission. s/n in 39 uHz 10.5 dB and Eb/N0 2.54 dB. It >>> was pretty convincing as the decode popped up in the 0,0,0,0 phase >>> trial and only improved thereafter. >>> Congrats Stefan on what appears to be the first E>W T/A on Dreamers >>> Band! >>> Jay W1VD --------------050906010503040609030800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Correction: Start time: 19.FEB.2018  22:30:00 UTC (daily)

Am 19.02.2018 16:08, schrieb DK7FC:
PS: 6099 km, my new ODX and > twice as far as the last ODX!!

Am 19.02.2018 15:58, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi Jay, VLF,

An excellent achievement below 9 kHz! And even from a single night, without stacking!!! I expected we will need about a week, or even more.

To leave a carrier trace or even a message decode over that path, from east to west, was one of the goals during the kite experiments in 2010/2011, where my ERP was 20 dB higher. We mever managed that. Until now!

So maybe the E>W path is less than 20 dB harder. That opens the door for more imaginations about VLF DX, not only for me.

We need to proove that this is reproducable :-) So let me try a 2 character message starting this night:

f = 8270.1000 Hz
Start time: 19.FEB.2018  22:3:00 UTC (daily)
Symbol period: 30 s
Characters: 2
CRC bits: 22
Coding 16K21A
Duration: 07:12 [hh:mm]
Antenna current: 700 mA


In the attachment one can see the results put out by the Linux decoder running on the file you sent me this morning. Only right decodes and improving rank.

Can we really expect 2 characters in 2 days? We will see! Let's go!

73, Stefan




Am 19.02.2018 15:41, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net:
Stefan's transmission:
 
f = 8270.1000 Hz
Start time: 12.FEB.2018  22:32:00 UTC (daily)
Symbol period: 32 s
Characters: 1
CRC bits: 24
Coding 16K21A
Duration: 07:06:40 [hh:mm:ss]
Antenna current: 700 mA

After a week of trying ... including two nights with TX problems, one night with RX problems and one night with high noise levels ... a successful decode of Stefan's message was made on last night's transmission. s/n in 39 uHz 10.5 dB and Eb/N0 2.54 dB. It was pretty convincing as the decode popped up in the 0,0,0,0 phase trial and only improved thereafter.
 
Congrats Stefan on what appears to be the first E>W T/A on Dreamers Band!
 
Jay W1VD 
 
 
    
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