Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w0JCDJ9Q013013 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:13:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ecVU6-0000S1-0n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:09:26 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ecVU4-0000Rr-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:09:24 +0000 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ecVU2-0002Aa-6I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:09:23 +0000 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F3B120EC5 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:09:21 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=posteo.de Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1516363761; bh=gBOYsKdzvsvubJJS/4Pn7eph9zQjZgzEpqRvdXz03MY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=fKzD5Si9KcSv77Kai50YmsglAyVj4CrgKjdFNzjwnNiDKf793IPlHV6tRQl8gMYvU zbe2nNFw+jT7ZXuUnlD4csQFf9Mm6lFY499xrEtJSYglD4dwhtjbXZtMGPWuS20pmB hd53jZjX3CsrwqTJ4T9JzFLnnB96dr01oFiDg+Mbo/0dFvi9l6zGApHjgrzB7htR0D WfnLo5wcNNca4fzq11Whz1q06UnuP45IB7vJWel7eX3b79Z6Uw0Ut3EYsjCXIVfLvf +q405s0HteTKQInTmlWl1/rZOenwbrOldORz1g31no8x6bFmZ3TN3cMdAEe4+6kOzL N0WnU9One7wCg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3zNKPX5cvbz9rxQ for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:09:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5A61DFF0.7030103@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:09:20 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5A5FCC85.8060108@posteo.de> <5A613D3D.5080902@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Paul, Very nice! Thank you for the reports. If you got +3.8 dB from that message, then we can expect up to 10 characters per night between us (using twice as long symbols and start/stop times optimised for our path), so the 100 character message is realistic between us! :-) We will try that but it may take a few weeks before we can begin... [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 66d07794ca19cd68f7d6cc289cd4ac18 Subject: Re: VLF: 300 mA on 4470 Hz, 67 km band Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Paul, Very nice! Thank you for the reports. If you got +3.8 dB from that message, then we can expect up to 10 characters per night between us (using twice as long symbols and start/stop times optimised for our path), so the 100 character message is realistic between us! :-) We will try that but it may take a few weeks before we can begin... 73, Stefan Am 19.01.2018 09:26, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > Stefan wrote: > > > f = 4470.100000 Hz > > Start time: 18.JAN.2018 16:00:00 UTC > > Symbol period: 60 s > > Characters: 2 > > CRC bits: 16 > > Coding 16K23A (NEW) > > Duration: 13h20min [hh:mm] > > Antenna current: 300 mA > > > Unintentionally the message was sent with 30 second > > symbols this night. > > Good copy in Todmorden. Based on last night's carrier, > the signal calculated predicted Eb/N0 would be +3.5 dB, > and I got a decode at +3.8 dB. > > A distance record for message decode at the 67km band. > > Bielefeld: Eb/N0 +13dB, *Decoded* > > Warsaw: Eb/N0 -10.7 dB; > > Cumiana: Eb/N0 +5.0 dB *Decoded* > > First message decode Germany to Italy at this band. > > A nice result for first use of 16K23A. Decoder needs 3.5 Gbyte > RAM for this message size with optimum list length. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >