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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thanks Paul for the summary! Well, you may have noticed that the tree has some problems. The WLAN link is not working correctly. In the Raspi (AP) log files i can see that it connects and disconnects each few seconds sometime. In the next moment it is stable for e few minutes... I spent a lot of time to exclude many possible reasons. It looks like there is a bad contact in the 2.4 GHz yagi outside the building. Last night i run a test with a local vorbis stream running over that AP when it was using a different antenna. The antenna was inside the building for that test. The stream is still running. It would not automatically try to reconnect, so there was not a single interruption since last night, which seems to confirm that the antenna is the problem. Well, why do i tell that? The antenna outside the building is just 1 m distant to the TX antenna. The antenna is floating. The shield of the coax cable of the antenna is coming inside the building, connecting to the WLAN stick, so it is the same ground as the Raspi2 (AP). It looks like some RF current is coming inside the building that way and it looks like there is some coupling to the very low level of the E field feedback probe that is used for the phase correction in SL. Last night there was no RF current since the antenna outside the building was not connected. And now, there is a phase change of +15 deg on your side and and on Wolfs side !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not unlikely that this is caused by the changed configuration. Fortunately this is just a small phase change but it is not optimal!!!!!!! So thanks for the feedback that shows this phase change! [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: bf9cd6b3d49c805062abf73a1027fea8 Subject: Re: VLF: Finally back on the 58 km band... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks Paul for the summary! Well, you may have noticed that the tree has some problems. The WLAN link is not working correctly. In the Raspi (AP) log files i can see that it connects and disconnects each few seconds sometime. In the next moment it is stable for e few minutes... I spent a lot of time to exclude many possible reasons. It looks like there is a bad contact in the 2.4 GHz yagi outside the building. Last night i run a test with a local vorbis stream running over that AP when it was using a different antenna. The antenna was inside the building for that test. The stream is still running. It would not automatically try to reconnect, so there was not a single interruption since last night, which seems to confirm that the antenna is the problem. Well, why do i tell that? The antenna outside the building is just 1 m distant to the TX antenna. The antenna is floating. The shield of the coax cable of the antenna is coming inside the building, connecting to the WLAN stick, so it is the same ground as the Raspi2 (AP). It looks like some RF current is coming inside the building that way and it looks like there is some coupling to the very low level of the E field feedback probe that is used for the phase correction in SL. Last night there was no RF current since the antenna outside the building was not connected. And now, there is a phase change of +15 deg on your side and and on Wolfs side !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not unlikely that this is caused by the changed configuration. Fortunately this is just a small phase change but it is not optimal!!!!!!! So thanks for the feedback that shows this phase change! 73, Stefan Am 03.01.2018 12:05, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > Stefan wrote: > > > f = 5170.1000 Hz > > Start time: 29.Dec.2017 15:00:00 UTC > > Symbol period: 30 s > > Characters: 12 > > CRC bits: 20 > > Coding 16K21A > > Duration: 14:56 [hh:mm] > > Todmorden (881.2 km) > -------------------- > > 29/30 Eb/N0 +2.8 dB, S/N -26.2 dB/1Hz, phase 46.1 *Decoded* > 30/31 Eb/N0 +4.1 dB, S/N -24.9 dB/1Hz, phase 44.2 *Decoded* > 31/01 Eb/N0 +1.8 dB, S/N -27.1 dB/1Hz, phase 43.2 *Decoded* > 01/02 Eb/N0 +1.5 dB, S/N -27.5 dB/1Hz, phase 57.6 *Decoded* > 02/03 Eb/N0 -1.6 dB, S/N -30.6 dB/1Hz, phase 60.6; > > Bielefeld (303.8 km DL4YHF) > --------------------------- > > 29/30 Eb/N0 +8.6 dB, S/N -20.4 dB/1Hz, phase -53.5 *Decoded* > 30/31 Eb/N0 +8.3 dB, S/N -20.6 dB/1Hz, phase -52.1 *Decoded* > 31/01 Eb/N0 +8.1 dB, S/N -20.8 dB/1Hz, phase -56.3 *Decoded* > 01/02 Eb/N0 +8.4 dB, S/N -20.6 dB/1Hz, phase -47.9 *Decoded* > 02/03 Eb/N0 +4.0 dB, S/N -24.9 dB/1Hz, phase -38.1 *Decoded* > > Warsaw (919.3 km SQ5BPF) > ------------------------ > > 29/30 Eb/N0 -5.4 dB, S/N -34.4 dB/1Hz, phase -20.3; > 30/31 Eb/N0 -17.2 dB, S/N -46.2 dB/1Hz; > 31/01 Eb/N0 -7.8 dB, S/N -36.8 dB/1Hz, phase -44.2; > 01/02 Eb/N0 -6.1 dB, S/N -35.1 dB/1Hz, phase -36.1; > 02/03 Eb/N0 -8.2 dB, S/N -37.1 dB/1Hz, phase 2.9; > > Five stacked: Eb/N0 -2.1 dB > > Cumiana (504.6 km IK1QFK) > ------------------------- > > 29/30 Eb/N0 -5.4 dB, S/N -34.3 dB/1Hz, phase 176.7; > 30/31 Eb/N0 -1.3 dB, S/N -30.3 dB/1Hz, phase -176.2; > 31/01 Eb/N0 -4.9 dB, S/N -33.9 dB/1Hz, phase 177.4; > 01/02 No data from rx site, ADSL fault; > 02/03 No data from rx site, ADSL fault; > > Three stacked: Eb/N0 1.1 dB *Decoded* > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >