Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id vBLLmAr1000839 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:48:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1eS8cX-0004l7-RR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 21:43:17 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1eS8cX-0004ky-5D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 21:43:17 +0000 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eS8cU-0002zf-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 21:43:15 +0000 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41DA220EDC for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:43:12 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=posteo.de Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1513892592; bh=XTWZ/glAsaUics2d5WVB6n5IpSIKVFEj0ANNNood6Bs=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:From; b=LaLmH7LJxC+WhvgMN0y1iqJablQvKsG0WaXjTtPL8A/Hl57UrX1JcfWdeaj+AmGLN Tqv76WXQ3sd6ZVMkxScmvjuvoSQK8dCHNGY6JCJZbeoajoD4VbjC9AQSVr+GwbMftA iFfHK0Vgy9Lk2s5DTPA17VZpYdKnGtYUBKnZK1DLDwvTl4iXCfGbL9Ui7P8Ko7Vc8B rSAERnv9JSdgkCCYjPZRuae2/Zdy1JiB14WV/K2NqryyEj/GLnyWsGSxUcOq1hBc2R p21f8UMf4KOT9q/jiyaMmDBw7kzXQwQ2nUIEueJ7QdO0HLUCBuZ31e3+ZGIJ1SNMnf tPZfLrraOngtw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3z2lW32Hbpz9rxR; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:43:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5A3C2AEE.2040602@posteo.de> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:43:10 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: Michael Smith References: <2dbcd2a8-0109-41e4-c0ca-aada17f54de8@abelian.org> <5A2D886D.5060109@posteo.de> <5A31249C.2040307@posteo.de> <5A326AAE.7020808@posteo.de> <6b23a798-f28e-828c-bd8a-43ba8af0fb6a@abelian.org> <346e5dfe-da5f-79e9-c097-e3012a3b74bd@abelian.org> <5A344E83.3020308@posteo.de> <5A37BB18.4090806@posteo.de> <79b53aa1-0fa7-d02c-34bf-5b2e3b7bdddb@abelian.org> <5A381F2B.7000304@posteo.de> <3871624a-11dc-12b8-853c-8454840ca9ff@abelian.org> <5A398786.7000001@posteo.de> <5A398906.9000806@posteo.de> <6833b8ea-5cf8-809e-364e-a9f47e04bc44@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <6833b8ea-5cf8-809e-364e-a9f47e04bc44@abelian.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thanks Paul, Terrible, it becomes worese again :-( Quite a struggle. But i (we) need to stay relaxed. The 4th transmission is now running. Let's see what it brings. It would be interesting to learn and predict the phase. Why do these changes happen? Just by chance? The first two nights were quite stable but why is the second almost in opposite phase? [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 739d4fb39bd02fc5a2de5437a39bb056 Subject: Re: VLF: Transatlantic success East to West Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks Paul, Terrible, it becomes worese again :-( Quite a struggle. But i (we) need to stay relaxed. The 4th transmission is now running. Let's see what it brings. It would be interesting to learn and predict the phase. Why do these changes happen? Just by chance? The first two nights were quite stable but why is the second almost in opposite phase? 73, Stefan Am 21.12.2017 19:41, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > Stefan wrote: > > > f = 17470.1000 Hz > > Start time: 18.Dec.2017 21:30:00 UTC > > Symbol period: 45 s > > Characters: 2 > > CRC bits: 14 > > Coding 16K21A > > After 3 nights: > > 18/19th Eb/N0 = -4.9 dB, S/N -39.6 dB in 1Hz, phase 110.4 > 19/20th Eb/N0 = -6.5 dB, S/N -41.1 dB in 1Hz, phase 125.6 > 20/21st Eb/N0 = -7.8 dB, S/N -42.4 dB in 1Hz, phase -22.5 > > Stacking 18/19 + 19/20 gives Eb/N0 = -2.7 dB. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >