Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v8QMDoIg018010 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 00:13:53 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dwxv4-00045t-J9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:01:34 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dwxv3-00045k-Pw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:01:33 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dwxv0-0002Gl-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:01:32 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55213209C2 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 00:01:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3y1vzn5SSrz10Hh for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 00:01:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <59CACE35.2010302@posteo.de> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 00:01:25 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <15ea03edd54-c07-2a33b@webjas-vab251.srv.aolmail.net> <59C2C034.3070609@posteo.de> <59C428C3.7030709@posteo.de> <59C9816E.4050409@posteo.de> <6e7bcad1-06db-f5e4-f5fc-a5bc7cb4be45@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <6e7bcad1-06db-f5e4-f5fc-a5bc7cb4be45@abelian.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Paul, I already expected that you were in holidays. Am 26.09.2017 13:56, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > So now there are all these messages to decode... Ah yes I am > needed - but only to read the emails and run the decoder. Of course you are needed. There are a lot of things to do this winter season! :-) [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: ab7de7439a3fce0b74220375dc6f18e8 Subject: Re: VLF: 300 mA on 8270 Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090308020905090707060202" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090308020905090707060202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, I already expected that you were in holidays. Am 26.09.2017 13:56, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > So now there are all these messages to decode... Ah yes I am > needed - but only to read the emails and run the decoder. Of course you are needed. There are a lot of things to do this winter season! :-) > So the following is just > using the loops: > > 2017-09-22: +0.4 dB phase 126.0 list rank 8225; > 2017-09-23: +1.6 dB phase 131.0 list rank 0; > 2017-09-24: +0.3 dB phase 134.0 list rank 242; > 2017-09-25: +2.2 dB phase 127.2 list rank 0; > > All decoded an obviously correct message with uniform reference > phase, using the optimum list length for uniform phase; > Stacking all four gives Eb/N0 = +7.2 dB. Great results. Especially the phase is interesting! Quite ow variations. There are a few days remaining within the 100 transmit hours test. I had the idea to try to send a 100 character message over to you, on each band, with as much stacking as necessary. 8.27 kHz will be easy. 6.47 kHz will be well possible too. Then 5.17 kHz will be a challenge. And 4470 Hz will be a hard challenge! Let's see what we do. Now, let's try: *f = 8270.005000 Hz Start time: 27.September.2017 06:00:00 UTC (daily) Symbol period: 8 s Characters: 100 CRC bits: 16 Coding 8K19A Duration: 11h,16min,16sec Antenna current: 300 mA *Paul, tell the message if you got it. I hope that 4 days will be enough. After that test, i'll go down to 6.47 kHz. 73, Stefan * * --------------090308020905090707060202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Paul,

I already expected that you were in holidays.

Am 26.09.2017 13:56, schrieb Paul Nicholson:

So now there are all these messages to decode... Ah yes I am
needed - but only to read the emails and run the decoder.
Of course you are needed. There are a lot of things to do this winter season! :-)

So the following is just
using the loops:

 2017-09-22: +0.4 dB phase 126.0 list rank 8225;
 2017-09-23: +1.6 dB phase 131.0 list rank 0;
 2017-09-24: +0.3 dB phase 134.0 list rank 242;
 2017-09-25: +2.2 dB phase 127.2 list rank 0;

All decoded an obviously correct message with uniform reference
phase, using the optimum list length for uniform phase;

Stacking all four gives Eb/N0 = +7.2 dB.
 Great results. Especially the phase is interesting! Quite ow variations.

There are a few days remaining within the 100 transmit hours test. I had the idea to try to send a 100 character message over to you, on each band, with as much stacking as necessary. 8.27 kHz will be easy. 6.47 kHz will be well possible too. Then 5.17 kHz will be a challenge. And 4470 Hz will be a hard challenge! Let's see what we do.
Now, let's try:

f = 8270.005000 Hz
Start time: 27.September.2017  06:00:00 UTC (daily)
Symbol period: 8 s
Characters: 100
CRC bits: 16
Coding 8K19A
Duration: 11h,16min,16sec
Antenna current: 300 mA

Paul, tell the message if you got it. I hope that 4 days will be enough. After that test, i'll go down to 6.47 kHz.

73, Stefan


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