Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 09551380000A8; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QslGU-0002th-02 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:42:50 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QslGT-0002tY-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:42:49 +0100 Received: from nm3-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([212.82.108.88]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QslGS-0007Cg-PV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:42:49 +0100 Received: from [212.82.108.229] by nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2011 00:42:42 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.224] by tm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2011 00:42:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2011 00:42:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 448352.24793.bm@omp1001.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 13706 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2011 00:42:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=zDbbyvFDDVCqpMbS+v7R1XBn3TK5ruXEvScFB4QzX9kMpCfh2qgSMxunsDqgR50vLR4iZnMsvn78tbObnyJllsuy/CotL+34ycYtC3eoERz2JygbqC1wuUhaeg2ktIcNgUPF0l9D5+l7nWb3Hl98plSvkD3FFDU1/wenPeC+FHk= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1313368962; bh=A4ht1qo7pvAGWxC3p06jJdnbkmi2fzWvzLUHjv2HOr0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4SfAIRuia9CBUWMcreMRA/WBZ4V5EW1fJGap3wbqWPe4BRyFsjddqzR9HXrOitdLkT7SWQiwq6JSTaVzNWZWyf6448hC+5zuaRbI0k0bUShndqNazOm4YAMxVFx1Jfoqmydqg10Tak+iionl2EvtpHDw88jBtWniC1931qVCHbA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: mb_5UAEVM1lwM6gRazEqREPoATHWqIqBXipc5llE_lNxhi2 fm3hZLzNCutNsrtNmv.GCW6sNzApx0NEG3UmRdSgTNHsHsrakMVl1ZiKNbQJ K1OHqmF1CKK0PdbjkCqFhz6XE862vSjAUz6hkajwJrr5.7MbJ95lb_wWXcp_ xZ3C.evkDaoXRiw1B3k923gGSGC6fxSMrMsgKuiBe8Au5BBnPd9iV2MPHIDI ivy4jqWu2EfsgP8GYs1J0wL_28.sRPnH2QKXyhA019SpZYqRtJG3hYaicNtj u32n68XauFnjbTRqlCjMRFNEH9Uot8VM5cTWsOZy_sqN_4FWbYNCq.rgzxjg ZTmQJPrNaJ9O._1B44PVqfz9wdeeD1ZTyZluSqycpv_YBy2_cCAp0xA8BTc_ iSv1NLiv2SvHTbGM- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.174.25.18 with login) by smtp819.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2011 00:42:42 +0000 GMT Message-ID: <59A6091569ED45EE8244D56DBD9C268B@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <68BE37BD69E54DEE89CEBA8E30E9B94E@PcMinto> <4E47FFE9.10100@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <3ED8E5422F1F45DBB8186E9D9870AD63@PcMinto> <4E480E02.9020706@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <938BF599006244949F6CDDB5BA91F347@PcMinto> <4E482FBD.7030402@freenet.de> <4E484183.9090805@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4E48556B.7030906@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <00a501cc5ade$1dd83550$4001a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <00a501cc5ade$1dd83550$4001a8c0@lark> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:43:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite RX antennas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:478888448:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d022.2 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600b4e486bda314f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Stefan, Alan, LF Group, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:58 AM Subject: Re: LF: Ferrite RX antennas >I am afraid the tone of the article makes me a skeptic :-)) I have to agree with Alan - it has all the ingredients... The astonishing new discovery that so completely overturns the current laws of physics ... the remarkable results of tests, unencumbered by details of what they actually mean... and the obligatory paranoid bit at the end in response to received criticism... This has been discussed before on the reflector - I think the conclusion was that it would be possible to make a ferrite cored loop antenna with sensitivity limited by the natural noise floor, but it would be rather big and heavy, so an air-cored loop is more practical. I will try and retrieve some details later - in the meantime, I need to lie down quietly in a darkened room for a while. Well it is past bedtime ;-) Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU