Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: wuwien: mailn 1290; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v7GBXIA2025539 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:33:20 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dhwPe-0006gI-1y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:23:02 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dhwPd-0006g9-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:23:01 +0100 Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net ([80.0.253.70]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dhwPZ-0006X0-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:22:59 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([86.31.43.231]) by know-smtprelay-6-imp with bizsmtp id xnNq1v00K4zFP2m01nNtMv; Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:22:53 +0100 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=ntlworld.com Result=Signature OK X-Originating-IP: [86.31.43.231] X-Authenticated-User: X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=Va8KRwd9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OMeJ2NchiI3V7dK0t+UK+Q==:117 a=OMeJ2NchiI3V7dK0t+UK+Q==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=ivnXqhBVAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=GoqwstHNAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=yG-iV3v_-oIbEej-u4EA:9 a=ZevyY2HgnLyXOaz3:21 a=2bnKfkWs3cQsz2uS:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=wW_WBVUImv98JQXhvVPZ:22 a=aif6eW07jeEVVZOP0pFm:22 a=slCku8JSH3TyizEDQ3pD:22 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:22:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <59942B0A.24580.1EB31366@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <8B69C5D938E54F6B987C46A0EBBC28D7@gnat> References: <0883B95D3F4D417F975C59A900E1A838@gnat>, <8B69C5D938E54F6B987C46A0EBBC28D7@gnat> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.72.572) Content-description: Mail message body DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ntlworld.com; s=meg.feb2017; t=1502882573; bh=GTX4ZqFspx5IvJnuhly1eXRwZwd4HfOeP8ZK3uVPAqc=; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Reply-to:In-reply-to:References; b=dkeIEQK02Vc+jlvyOw9JzMns82r2wMi9sAynhRdCOowKt0oD7Za4PnmJeIi4Z5htM GgPAKD3CWAgmO/u5vhiOA2sHqRvdnFc1dCW4/NltmYNQWSeGU/Zd39IIwqVejre2KH UuvMx3c8TWjr3yhWolKHEtUihyxDiJSiWTPE5Sdh6Hy6avTOKjZ3rpNdl9L09SLnvX vh83N2aksi993XLTGfwlCLWwVA4OQQRGFFXKs7IRWfhtaq8UoCa7mn8jQxMLtlHZP4 zQsuUsSasVey2h3jFTSPWUyvVT7HqFaf+5/sUjm4cmFyNMW24eimLQPMu2TdIuoIDD yl0HWlEFViCUA== X-Scan-Signature: 1bc6486c2865e7dc2ff7578e6d7fc226 Subject: Re: LF: RE:G4HUP aerial current meter Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12391 I made several modifications to get 5A FSD on my meter. Firstly, I used all of the supplied wire to make 17t on the toroid instead of the recommended 10t. I changed the input resistors which were getting hot with 3A RF. I also added a fixed resistor in series with the meter. This of course changed the old 100mA range to something like 2A, but it could easily be retained with some slightly more complex mods. I calibrated the HUP meter with a Russian WW2 thermocouple ammeter, and found its linearity to be good. A very nice piece of kit. Mike, G3XDV =========== > Hi Hugh thanks for that.......I dont have a power source at the > moment.Yes they would probably just survive 2A but certainly not > 10.The solution then is to increase the number of turns on the > ferrite. Though I think reducing the load (two 100R in parallel > currently :-)) ) would work too. say 2 x 10R ??The original > components were designed to get the 100mA range I think. That needs > checking against Ian GM3SEK's web site. > > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dhchurch@lineone.net > To: rsgb_lf_group > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: Re: LF: RE:G4HUP aerial current meter > > > Having just put this meter into use, I must point out that the dc > output from the BAT42 diodes is about 15V for the 1A range so I > would have thought actually potting this down after rectification > with 10A would promptly see off the diodes which, I think, are rated > at 30piV. > > > Hugh, M0DSZ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > dhchurch@lineone.net > > From: DK7FC > Date: 2017-08-05 10:46 > To: rsgb_lf_group > Subject: Re: LF: RE:G4HUP aerial current meter > Hi Ian, > > When the range of a current tranformer should be increased from 1A > to 10A, the best way is to increase the number of turns of the > secondary winding by a factor 10. This transforms the current down > by a factor 10 (not up) in the secondary winding... I*N has the > same value on both sides (ideally/theoretically). > > 73, Stefan > > Am 05.08.2017 11:35, schrieb i.frith@ntlworld.com: > > Hello Allan > > > > I assume the 10A mod is a matter of increasing the series R with > the > meter to around 800k? > > I suppose a 3way switch and extra > trim pot could be added to preserve > the 1A range too. > > Thanks > for the note re-shipping Monday. > > Look forward to getting the > Kit. > > 73 > > Ian G4GIR > > -----Original Message----- From: > Alan Melia > Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 9:36 PM > To: > rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk ; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: LF: RE:G4HUP aerial current meter > > It has just occured > to me that the 1A range may not be high enough for > some > of the > LF QRO merchants. There is a simple mod which will extend the > > range > up to 10A though you should be aware the ferrite core has > not been > tested at > this level of RF. These cores are used on > mains leads carrying up to > 13A so > I think they will be OK. > > > Thank you to those showing interest, there are a few kits still > > available. > > Alan > G3NYK > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com >