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[37.182.103.27]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h16sm46815711wma.14.2017.07.05.11.46.36 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Jul 2017 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <595CB879.6040207@posteo.de> <595CC4B1.8030902@posteo.de> <595CD25A.8050009@posteo.de> From: iz7lsz Message-ID: <595D340A.50803@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 18:46:34 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <595CD25A.8050009@posteo.de> X-Scan-Signature: 87525734ac0bb319fb3f44295fe6963b Subject: Re: LF: Auto-EbNaut reception on LF in JN80 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030204060503020907020409" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12182 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030204060503020907020409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stefan, again thanks for testing this system ! I did some changes and now log is arranged in lifo style. I think is better for browsing now. About the different list numbers on different channels, it's seem a good idea. I will try to modify the script for the third channel and for the vari-list. This is the actual sequence of the script : - exactly at XX.17, after transmission period, ebnaut program starts (parameters for RX1) and it ends at XX.31 (about). This time depends from my slow pc. - after that DETECTED.TXT file is updated and uploaded on my ftp site - than , exactly at XX.37 ebnaut program starts again (parameters for RX2) and it ends at XX.46 (about). - after that DETECTED.TXT file is updated again and uploaded on my ftp site There is room for a third decoding process (even at same list=20000) before that the script loops again at XX.00 hour. ...stay tuned . 73, Domenic iz7slz BTW this is a very On 7/5/2017 11:49, DK7FC wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm sorry for the many emails today. But i have another idea for > Domenico: > > You could run a 3rd 'channel', e.g. 137.485 kHz (still oriented on the > current frequency section) and indicate/define this channel (3) as a > 'local' channel, whereas the other channels are indicated as 'medium' > (2) and 'DX' (1). > The difference in the settings in these channels (apart from the > frequency of course) is the list size! > Local stations or strong stations like me will decode almost every > time at rank 0, so you can use a very small list length for that > channel, e.g. 50. > A weak/distant station or in times of high QRN one (e.g. VO1NA) would > prefer to use one of the other channels, just in case that the rank > will be much worse. > You can see that most of the 'false' decodes happen at list lengths of > > 5000. So with the use of different list lengths you can avoid > several false decodes, CPU usage and false entries in the log file. > For the 'medium' channel you could use a list length of 1000 and for > DX maybe 20000. > > Just an idea :-) > > Using two frequencies has already improved the situation: > > ----------------------------------------- > 2017-07-05_09:59:30 start time + 30 s on 137.490 kHz > found rank 0 ber 8.0645e-02 Eb/N0 10.6 M -9.849675903e+02 [*GM ALL IW4DXW K*] ps [ 1 180 180 180 180] > 2017-07-05_10:59:30 start time + 30 s on 137.495 kHz > found rank 0 ber 2.3185e-01 Eb/N0 4.9 M -5.360782471e+02 [*73 FROM DL TO I*] ps [ 0 0 0 0 0] > -------------------------------------------------------- > In a few minutes i will try to run less antenna current to come closer > to the limit :-) > > Thanks for the great service :-) > > 73, Stefan --------------030204060503020907020409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan,

again thanks for testing this system !

I did some changes and now log is arranged in lifo style. I think is better for browsing now.

About the different list numbers on different channels, it's seem a good idea. I will try to modify the script for the third channel and for the vari-list.

This is the actual sequence of the script :

- exactly at XX.17, after  transmission period,  ebnaut program starts (parameters for RX1) and it ends at XX.31 (about). This time depends from my slow pc.
- after that DETECTED.TXT file is updated and uploaded on my ftp site
- than , exactly at XX.37 ebnaut program starts again  (parameters for RX2) and it ends at XX.46 (about).
- after that DETECTED.TXT file is updated again  and uploaded on my ftp site
There is room for a third decoding process (even at same list=20000)  before that the script loops again at XX.00 hour.

...stay tuned .

73, Domenic iz7slz



BTW this is a very


On 7/5/2017 11:49, DK7FC wrote:
Hi all,

I'm sorry for the many emails today. But i have another idea for Domenico:

You could run a 3rd 'channel', e.g. 137.485 kHz (still oriented on the current frequency section) and indicate/define this channel (3) as a 'local' channel, whereas the other channels are indicated as 'medium' (2) and 'DX' (1).
The difference in the settings in these channels (apart from the frequency of course) is the list size!
Local stations or strong stations like me will decode almost every time at rank 0, so you can use a very small list length for that channel, e.g. 50.
A weak/distant station or in times of high QRN one (e.g. VO1NA) would prefer to use one of the other channels, just in case that the rank will be much worse.
You can see that most of the 'false' decodes happen at list lengths of > 5000. So with the use of different list lengths you can avoid several false decodes, CPU usage and false entries in the log file.
For the 'medium' channel you could use a list length of 1000 and for DX maybe 20000.

Just an idea :-)

Using two frequencies has already improved the situation:

-----------------------------------------
2017-07-05_09:59:30   start time + 30 s  on 137.490 kHz 
found rank 0 ber 8.0645e-02 Eb/N0 10.6 M -9.849675903e+02 [GM ALL IW4DXW K] ps [  1  180  180  180  180]
2017-07-05_10:59:30   start time + 30 s  on 137.495 kHz 
found rank 0 ber 2.3185e-01 Eb/N0 4.9 M -5.360782471e+02 [73 FROM DL TO I] ps [  0    0    0    0    0]
--------------------------------------------------------
In a few minutes i will try to run less antenna current to come closer to the limit :-)

Thanks for the great service :-)

73, Stefan

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