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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Andy, Congratulation, it's absolutly fantastic and you deserve a big BRAVO ! 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Michel - F5WK=20 Le dimanche 17 f=C3=A9vrier 2013 =C3=A0 13:08:26, Andr=C3=A9 =C3=A9crivait : From=20F6CNI : =20 Hello, I give you some info about the MF reception of Dale VK1DSH signal he= re in France. =20 For 2 weeks, the propagation between EU / VK on 160 meters is great, and I = had some CW QSO barefoot. I think that for this DX path the propagation on = MF may be similar than on 160 m ? =20 At the date of this event, between the Dale and Andy QTH, the best moment i= s a bit before the grey line sunset in France, when the sun elevation is ab= out 3=C3=82=C2=B0. But on 160 meters that needs especially good propagation= and the opening is rare and very short, 5 to 15 minutes only. This moment = is now around 1645 TU in my QTH. A bit later, when the sunrise at VK land i= n grey line, that is a second short period for success, around 1920 TU. Tha= t is true only for south to north hemisphere DX. =20 For north / north path (EU to east coast or centre of States) the best mome= nt is simply in the middle of the night. But perhaps for longer path, as we= st coast the sunrise in Europe is better ? =20 My garden is quite large but in centre of the city, a noisy location. Anten= nas for LF / MF are an 85 meters long Inverted L and a K9AY. RX are IC7200,= IC706MK2 and a FT1000MP. =20 Only 3 miles away from my home, there is a golf. That is my second hobby. D= ue to the very bad weather in France for one month, there is a very little = player=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s activity. So a week ago I hang on border of= the golf a simple beverage using a very light wire. About 500 or a bit mor= e meters long aiming to 80=C3=82=C2=B0 azimuth. For the test yesterday I ha= d in my car the IC7200 on 473.5 USB and a portable computer (only 2 hours o= f autonomy) with 3G. I stay on place only during 40 minutes. That is the st= ory. I catch one spot from Dale. =20 What that means ? The Beverage and not power line helps a lot giving a very= low noise level. The use of the 473.5 USB QRG is good, because there is no= t any QRM on this frequency. And certainly a great propagation day, so I wa= s lucky listening the good frequency at the best moment. What about the use= of long period of TXing, as WSPR15 or QRSS ? For this very long path, I th= ink that the opening duration time is too short for that use ? =20 Now, as Dale said to me in a mail, one spot is not sufficient to valid that= . So, I=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2ll try again but it is necessary for me to h= urry, because the beverage antenna must be dismounted in a short time. =20 For information, I use some codes when I am receiving LF, MF or 160m: =20 F6CNI : normal, listening only WSPR2 F6CNI/2 : I am listening both WSPR2 and WSPR15 (giving F6CNI/15 reports for= WSPR15) F6CNI/RX1 and F6CNI/RX2 : I use 2 RX with 2 RX antennas F6CNI/BEV : one RX is using the Beverage on the Golf location. =20 Best 73. Sorry my poor english. =20 F6CNI Andy. JN19QB =20 =20 From: Markus Vester Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:53 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m =20 There's a thread in the VK 600m group discussing this unusual wspr spot: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/600m/message/6415 =20 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: g3zjo To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m Andy Was this direct? 2013-02-16 16:44 VK1DSH 0.475078 -29 0 QF44ms = 50 F6CNI/BEV JN19qb 16832 310 Eddie G3ZJO -- ------------0CF0560412E7F8632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LF: VK1DSH reception in France WSPR 2 on 630m Hello Andy,

Congratulation, it's absolutly fantastic and you deserve a big BRAVO !


Michel - F5WK 



Le dimanche 17 f=C3=A9vrier 2013 =C3=A0 13:08:26, Andr=C3=A9 =C3=A9crivait = :
From F6CNI= :
 
Hello, I give you some info= about the MF reception of Dale VK1DSH signal here in France.
 
For 2 weeks, the propagatio= n between EU / VK on 160 meters is great, and I had some CW QSO barefoot. I= think that for this DX path the propagation on MF may be similar than on 1= 60 m ?
 
At the date of this event, = between the Dale and Andy QTH, the best moment is a bit before the grey lin= e sunset in France, when the sun elevation is about 3=C3=82=C2=B0. But on 1= 60 meters that needs especially good propagation and the opening is rare an= d very short, 5 to 15 minutes only. This moment is now around 1645 TU in my= QTH. A bit later, when the sunrise at VK land in grey line, that is a seco= nd short period for success, around 1920 TU. That is true only for south to= north hemisphere DX.
 
For north / north path (EU = to east coast or centre of States) the best moment is simply in the middle = of the night. But perhaps for longer path, as west coast the sunrise in Eur= ope is better ?
 
My garden is quite large bu= t in centre of the city, a noisy location. Antennas for LF / MF are an 85 m= eters long Inverted L and a K9AY. RX are IC7200, IC706MK2 and a FT1000MP.  
Only 3 miles away from my h= ome, there is a golf. That is my second hobby. Due to the very bad weather = in France for one month, there is a very little player=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84= =A2s activity. So a week ago I hang on border of the golf a simple beverage= using a very light wire. About 500 or a bit more meters long aiming to 80= =C3=82=C2=B0 azimuth. For the test yesterday I had in my car the IC7200 on = 473.5 USB and a portable computer (only 2 hours of autonomy) with 3G. I sta= y on place only during 40 minutes. That is the story. I catch one spot from= Dale.
 
What that means ? The Bever= age and not power line helps a lot giving a very low noise level. The use o= f the 473.5 USB QRG is good, because there is not any QRM on this frequency= . And certainly a great propagation day, so I was lucky listening the good = frequency at the best moment. What about the use of long period of TXing, a= s WSPR15 or QRSS ? For this very long path, I think that the opening durati= on time is too short for that use ?
 
Now, as Dale said to me = in a mail, one spot is not sufficient to valid that. So, I=C3=A2= =E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2ll try again but it is necessary for me to hurry, because= the beverage antenna must be dismounted in a short time.
 
For information, I use some= codes when I am receiving LF, MF or 160m:
 
  • F6CNI = : normal, listening only WSPR2
  • F6CNI/= 2 : I am listening both WSPR2 and WSPR15 (giving F6CNI/15 reports for WSPR1= 5)
  • F6CNI/= RX1 and F6CNI/RX2 : I use 2 RX with 2 RX antennas
  • F6CNI/= BEV : one RX is using the Beverage on the Golf location.
 
Best 73. Sorry my poor engl= ish.
 
F6CNI Andy. JN19QB
 
 
From: Markus Vester
Sent: S= unday, February 17, 2013 10:53 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>
Subject:&nbs= p;Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m
 
There's a thread in t= he VK 600m group discussing this unusual wspr spot:
http://groups.yahoo.c= om/group/600m/message/6415
 
Best 73, Markus (DF6N= M)
 
----- Original Messa= ge ----- 
From: g3zjo
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Sa= turday, February 16, 2013 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m

Andy

Was this direct?

  2013-02-16 16:44      VK1DSH      0.47= 5078      -29      0      QF44= ms       50      F6CNI/BEV     &nbs= p;JN19qb      16832     310

Eddie G3ZJO




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