Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v5CCQWF8032614 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 14:26:33 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dKOLf-0001qe-PI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:21:35 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dKOLf-0001qV-19 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:21:35 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dKOLb-0005ZR-Nn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:21:33 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A72A520A31 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 14:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3wmX7W6d0Gz10Hf for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 14:21:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <593E8747.6090905@posteo.de> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 14:21:27 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <15c87460f7d-767a-39538@webprd-m04.mail.aol.com> <5939353E.9080904@posteo.de> <593B1609.6080004@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: X-Scan-Signature: 1e15d6d6179985f133b43d42d658878a Subject: Re: VLF: This weekend... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11955 Hello Paul, VLF, That's nice, a new record for that week, 100 characters on 6.47 kHz in a single (non-stacked) transmission, even in June!! :-) Many thanks for the decode. It looks like you are further improving your software, so it become a even more powerful tool! I run some very basic exercises in the last days and i can say i'm impressed and i will become a friend of the tool(s). Reporting the decoded message indirectly by using the md5 hash is a cleaver idea, but i find it somehow spoils the fun a bit. In principal the message content is not relevant because it could be any message. But it looks like a bit far from amateur radio when the message is not told directly. Always think about potential newcomers: If someone reads "9f7707ee7424c3c07c3524616fe45b9b" then he could think "What the hell are they doing there??? but if he reads "CQ CQ on the 46 km band de DK7FC in JN49IK, pse KK" then he may rather think "Wow they are really transferring messages on such low frequencies, much longer messages than in JT9, i want to try that too"... Another thing is that i forgot the message, so i'm curious of what you have decoded :-) Can you tell the message please? 94% channel capacity and just 31.1 % bit error rate, how can this be? 73, Stefan Am 12.06.2017 11:25, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > Stefan schrieb: > > > f = 6470.100000 Hz > > Start time: 10.Jun.2017 04:00:00 UTC > > Symbol period: 20 s > > Characters: 100 > > CRC bits: 8 > > Coding 8K21A > > Copied a message with md5 hash (*): 9f7707ee7424c3c07c3524616fe45b9b > Constant reference phase. > > BER 31.1% > > Eb/N0 = -1.1 dB, 94% of channel capacity. > > Carrier S/N: 26.42 dB in 10.0 uHz, > -23.60 dB in 1Hz, > -57.58 dB in 2.5kHz > > List rank 1159. > Decoder RAM: 10Gbyte with list length 10k. > > I used ebnaut option -a 100 to normalise the amplitudes in the > decoder. It didn't decode at all without that. I will try that here too, thanks. It didn't see the -a 100 option in the documentation. > > 100 chars is a record message length at 6470 Hz. > > Error map http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/170612a.png > > I used a night blanker setting -a 12 (in version 8 onwards), > or about -a1.2 before version 8. > > (*) echo -n 'XXX...XXX' | md5sum > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >