Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v4U7HN5U031077 for ; Tue, 30 May 2017 09:17:25 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dFbGA-0000Yn-Id for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 08:08:06 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dFbG6-0000Ye-BC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 08:08:02 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dFbG2-0003my-QU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 08:08:01 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C84BE20B05 for ; Tue, 30 May 2017 09:07:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3wcPnh276Cz10BT for ; Tue, 30 May 2017 09:07:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <592D1A47.9000601@posteo.de> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 09:07:51 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <15c543f3844-234d-1bd23@webprd-m27.mail.aol.com> <2bafcee7-69e0-872f-e01a-36d82f952f2e@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <2bafcee7-69e0-872f-e01a-36d82f952f2e@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: e6de17d69e46ff4ea8db042ef2cd7e46 Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut tonite, 'SMS' via VLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11828 Hi Markus, Paul, It was a long transmission with relatively short symbols. Apart from the accuracy that is required for the timing there is also a higher requirement for the accuracy of the frequency. In my attempts of getting a decode from the recent 970 Hz test i saw that there is a frequency offset of -1/(transmission time) or probably rather -1/(FFT length). I'm still not absolutely sure but maybe this also plays a role here? A frequency offset was also observed by RN3AUS. Maybe this is not propagation but an effect that happens in the SL instance? Something we can find out in coming transmissions. I could run something like 30...40 characters, which is close to the limits for SQ5BPF and DL0AO... 73, Stefan Am 29.05.2017 19:58, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > Markus wrote: > > > I managed to produce a seamless wav with 0.514 Hz samplerate: > > > http://df6nm.bplaced.net/VLF/fec_tests/dl0ao_170524-25_join31uHz_wav.zip > > Still no decode. The correlation peaks at 20.44 dB in 12.6 uHz with > offsets +2058 seconds and +0.1 Hz so it looks like the settings are > correct. I'm using the sample rate 0.5143924/sec from the > WAV inf1 header. > > It's about 9 or 10dB short of decoding. > > The previous attempt gave 22.09 dB in 12.6 uHz so it's lost a > couple of dB somewhere. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >