Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v3IHLPB7007914 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:21:26 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1d0Wl0-0006v2-JT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:17:38 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1d0Wl0-0006ut-3y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:17:38 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1d0Wkw-0006GD-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:17:36 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5638C20AE8 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:17:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3w6sJX5gXczyRn for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:17:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <58F64A2C.5040306@posteo.de> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:17:32 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <58F60782.8050109@posteo.de> <1492534042.525865221@f175.i.mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <1492534042.525865221@f175.i.mail.ru> X-Scan-Signature: b45446db24846e84db90eb694609e205 Subject: Re: VLF: New carrier on 6470.005 Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080908000907010200010906" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11376 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080908000907010200010906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Alex, Indeed! Wow! Hm... It is hard to belive somehow. These few pixels are not weak at all. Can this be true? About 10 dB in 47 uHz. With such a signal we could even try EbNaut. I did not think that this is possible over a 1990 km distance. If this is true, then it is a first detection between DL and RU on the 46 km band :-) But why only these few pixels? Is it due to propagation? Then we should see the same short dash each day, if i can keep the signal on the air. It looks like 2 or 3 pixels, about 3...5 hours. We need to find the time when the band opens and when it closes. Let me calculate: http://abelian.org/ebnaut/calc.php?sndb=10&snbws=0.000047&snmps=&code=16K21&sp=25&crc=18&nc=2&submit=Calculate So 5 hours is critical. But we will get a new trace from this night, hopefully. I could start to run a first EbNaut night transmission tomorrow. When will you be in the garden next? :-) 73, Stefan Am 18.04.2017 18:47, schrieb Alex K: > Hello Stefan, VLF, > I have ~abt little trace (bright pixels) on 6470.005 in 47uHz and 21uHz. > 73! > > > Вторник, 18 апреля 2017, 19:18 +03:00 от Paul Nicholson > : > > > Stefan wrote: > > > The carrier will stay on air for at least 1 day, > > Getting good readings from the excellent signal. > > So far we have, S/N in 92.6 uHz and absolute phase > > 20:00 to 23:00 19.6 dB +14.5 deg 0.25 fT > 23:00 to 02:00 14.5 dB -3.2 deg 0.22 fT > 02:00 to 05:00 16.5 dB +16.4 deg 0.18 fT > 05:00 to 08:00 17.4 dB +51.5 deg 0.15 fT > 08:00 to 11:00 19.8 dB +68.3 deg 0.20 fT > 11:00 to 14:00 19.7 dB +62.3 deg 0.19 fT > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > > --------------080908000907010200010906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Alex,

Indeed! Wow! Hm... It is hard to belive somehow. These few pixels are not weak at all. Can this be true? About 10 dB in 47 uHz. With such a signal we could even try EbNaut.
I did not think that this is possible over a 1990 km distance.
If this is true, then it is a first detection between DL and RU on the 46 km band :-)


But why only these few pixels? Is it due to propagation? Then we should see the same short dash each day, if i can keep the signal on the air. It looks like 2 or 3 pixels, about 3...5 hours. We need to find the time when the band opens and when it closes.
Let me calculate: http://abelian.org/ebnaut/calc.php?sndb=10&snbws=0.000047&snmps=&code=16K21&sp=25&crc=18&nc=2&submit=Calculate
So 5 hours is critical. But we will get a new trace from this night, hopefully.
I could start to run a first EbNaut night transmission tomorrow.
When will you be in the garden next? :-)

73, Stefan


Am 18.04.2017 18:47, schrieb Alex K:
Hello Stefan, VLF,
I have ~abt little trace (bright pixels) on 6470.005 in 47uHz and 21uHz.
73!


Вторник, 18 апреля 2017, 19:18 +03:00 от Paul Nicholson <vlf0403@abelian.org>:


Stefan wrote:

 > The carrier will stay on air for at least 1 day,

Getting good readings from the excellent signal.

So far we have, S/N in 92.6 uHz and absolute phase

  20:00 to 23:00 19.6 dB +14.5 deg 0.25 fT
  23:00 to 02:00 14.5 dB -3.2 deg 0.22 fT
  02:00 to 05:00 16.5 dB +16.4 deg 0.18 fT
  05:00 to 08:00 17.4 dB +51.5 deg 0.15 fT
  08:00 to 11:00 19.8 dB +68.3 deg 0.20 fT
  11:00 to 14:00 19.7 dB +62.3 deg 0.19 fT

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Paul Nicholson
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