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[129.206.22.206]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k105sm672161wrc.12.2017.03.27.06.07.55 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Mar 2017 06:07:55 -0700 (PDT) From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> X-Google-Original-From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@gmail.com> Message-ID: <58D90EAA.2040800@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:07:54 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <15b0c868a2e-7d4f-1e3d7@webprd-a90.mail.aol.com> <5b20b18e-06fc-6965-34dc-dac06702857b@n1bug.com> In-Reply-To: <5b20b18e-06fc-6965-34dc-dac06702857b@n1bug.com> X-Scan-Signature: c0336009bd9bab526ca27d297ea7579a Subject: LF: WSPR-15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11031 Hi Paul, I've never had serious problems with the WSJT-X software running in WSPR-15 mode. However they did not continue to develop WSPR-15 since some years. For example the multi-pass decode option is not available for WSPR-15, a pity. Obviously they lost their interest, because it is 'just' LF, and there are not many users. If i remember correctly it was 2012 when i've been in contact with K1JT to talk about WSPR-15. That was the time he released the mode. He even was a member of this group for some time in that year. So i would assume they rather want to drop their interest in that mode for the future. Anyway we can use the old version which has of course the same performance than in 2013... One can assume an improvement of up to 9 dB, in theory and practice... 73, Stefan Am 27.03.2017 13:22, schrieb N1BUG: > On 03/27/2017 03:08 AM, Alex R7NT wrote: > >> I'm more interested in WSPR15 vs WSPR2 vs OP32 :-) >> What are the ideas about this? >> >> I believe WSPR15 is better against WSPR2 on LF for long distances in >> the usual propagation > > Hi Alex. > > I am very interested in WSPR15. > > Unfortunately the only WSPR15 decoder seems to be WSPR-X software > which many of us cannot use. It is always crashing, freezing, stopping > on many PCs. > > If someday the developers put WSPR15 in the stable WSJT-X software (or > someone writes another decoder software) then I think it has a chance > to become more popular. I am waiting! > > When (if) there is a stable decoder I will listen for WSPR15 in > parallel with WSPR2. > > 73, > Paul N1BUG / WI2XTC > FN55mf > > >