Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: INFN-TO: mailn 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mailn.lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id uBEJBZXr023407 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 20:11:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cHEt3-0003Sn-Hl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 19:06:45 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.34] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cHEt2-0003Se-Or for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 19:06:44 +0000 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cHEsy-0003cs-M4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 19:06:43 +0000 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07FE8208A7 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 20:06:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3tf5f532vDz104Z for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 20:06:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5851983D.5090705@posteo.de> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 20:06:37 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5843F55D.1020504@posteo.de> <5844957F.3070004@posteo.de> <5846942D.90906@abelian.org> <5847219F.7010904@posteo.de> <5847EC54.7090801@posteo.de> <584813C0.4000808@abelian.org> <58489D36.3080501@posteo.de> <584EAEE1.2010002@posteo.de> <027e01d25493$2d59c7f0$880d57d0$@comcast.net> <584EDEF9.5000309@posteo.de> <02ba01d254d5$c9606270$5c212750$@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <02ba01d254d5$c9606270$5c212750$@comcast.net> X-Scan-Signature: 739d4fb39bd02fc5a2de5437a39bb056 Subject: Re: ULF: Finally 100 mA on 2.97 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9801 Hello Jim, ULF, Am 13.12.2016 01:13, schrieb hvanesce@comcast.net: > If you have ruled out phase jumps from corona (which I think you did rule out) Today i did. I sent an unmodulated carrier from 10:30...18:38 UTC today (maybe useful for Paul who's probably working in the background :-) ) and monitored the signal in 30m distance. Of course the signal levels are very strong there and we can exclude any propagation effects. I can confirm there was no change in the colour (equal to the phase) in the transmission. It was interesting to see sidebands at +- 0.5 Hz and about -50 dBc, which probably come from the samplerate drift compensation which happens each second. So it all works as expected. On the tree, the colour changes were visible again, but the variations were quite weakly expressed today. > my next thoughts would include (among other things) variations in diffraction and/or re-radiation from local geography and infrastructure, I think this is unlikely because there is no electricity on the receive site on the tree, nothing like trees and stones in a radius of 1000m. > If your initial SNR measurements at 65 km are representative (first pixels 20dB at 47 uHz?), 20 dB at 424 uHz, after sferic blanking, in daytime. You're right, i should try to BTW the noise was so low that it looks like i am system noise limited, not natural noise limited. So i built a new and better preamp today, with two op amp stages, inspirations taken from http://www.vlf.it/feletti2/idealloop.html The VLF/ULF band noise is really very very low these days, i'm regularly impressed. Oh and i'm planning a 130 km experiment in the next few weeks. Before that i'm doing a local experiment just to test the new preamp together with the loop. In this 130km experiment i will rise the power by 3 dB, about 150 mA antenna current. That should be enough to see the signal in that distance in 424 uHz. Ah and the plan is to do it in France, JN38OO could be the region of interest... 73, Stefan