Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mailn.lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id uB6HhBoE014831 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2016 18:43:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cEJgd-0001WR-6Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 17:37:51 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cEJgc-0001WI-8W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 17:37:50 +0000 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cEJgZ-0007e4-DH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2016 17:37:49 +0000 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B05F520A6D for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2016 18:37:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3tY83D3wqtz106R for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2016 18:37:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5846F768.2070205@posteo.de> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2016 18:37:44 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5843F55D.1020504@posteo.de> <5844957F.3070004@posteo.de> <5846942D.90906@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <5846942D.90906@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: 138e3b341e0543401afa7e97ee054540 Subject: Re: ULF: Finally 100 mA on 2.97 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9731 Hi Paul, ULF, Most interesting anyway, despite there is no sign of my signal. Yesterday i build an analog amperemeter for AC measurements and calibrated it for a range up to 250 mA at 2970 Hz. I put it series to the wire between the cold end of the coil and the output of the transformer. Then i adjusted to 100 mA again and went on the roof. To my surprise it also showed 70 mA instead of 100 mA!!!!!!!! So that means the other one is damaged. I was sure that i calibrated it correctly. I dismantled the other one and searched for the fault in the lab (= warm!). A bridge rectifier out of 4x UF4007 diodes is used and a 1 Ohm / 2 Watt resistor on its output. Then another resistor to tune the desired range (300 mA) in front of the meter. It turned out that the 1 Ohm resistor has 2 Ohms!! It is crazy, it should hold 1.4 A permanently. There can be no HV breakdown or so. To control the measurement i applied 1A and measured 2V... Next, why doesn't it show 200% when the resistor value is 200%? It spooks! Now i replaced it by a new 1 Ohm resistor and put a big C in parallel (impulse capacitor) and recalibrated the meter. After repeating the test with 2 amperemeters in series, they show the same value, on the roof and in the shack, as expected. But all that means a bit more! It means that my power on 6470 Hz has been lower during the last tests, just 200 mA instead of 280. But the good message is that i can run 3 dB more power now ;-) It also means that my yesterdays 100 mA carrier has just been a 70 mA carrier. 3 dB weaker than expected. Next i found that i can not achieve 100 mA when tuning up the PA voltage which can be 25 V maximum. So i had to modify the inductance of the coil so the resonance comes a bit closer to 2970 Hz. After some testing, a few ferrite cores put into the field were doing a great job here to pull the resonance 10 Hz down: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/ULF/20161206_171409.jpg Now i can tune to 100 mA and a bit more in this test: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/ULF/20161206_170930.jpg Since 16:25 UTC i'm running a carrier again, this time with a real 100 mA. It will be on air until 19 UTC. 73, Stefan Am 06.12.2016 11:34, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > Stefan wrote: > > > With 70 uOhm radiation resistance the resulting ERP > > is now entering the microwatt range: 1.2 uW on the > > 101km band. > > I think I should be able to detect 1.2uW without trouble. > > Using for example, Wait's 1958 simple field strength > formula, your 1.2uW should reach Todmorden with > > Day: 50nV/m or 0.17 fT > > Night: 40nV/m or 0.13 fT > > Wait's formula gives a fair guess at 8270 Hz signals and is > in the same ballpark as LWPC. For example Markus with 10uW > at 8270 range 1023 km at midday: > > Wait 1958: 0.057 uV/m or 0.188 fT > LWPC: 0.053 uV/m or 0.18 fT > Rxed sigs: variable 0.05 to 0.12 fT > > LWPC doesn't seem to work at 2970 so can't compare. > > > A stable carrier at 100 mA was sent from 12:50 UTC to 14:24 UTC. > > Noise floor in 177 uHz was 0.03 fT but there is no hint of > a signal at all. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >