Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id uAF7MF9B023738 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 08:22:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1c6Y0y-0006jl-Up for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:18:44 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1c6Y0y-0006jc-As for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:18:44 +0000 Received: from porthos.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c6Y0v-00081G-6l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:18:43 +0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=abelian.org Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=abelian.org ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:To:References:Reply-To:Subject:Sender:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=a/Yl6vzDcQxA+wvXjjLiwprSbOv1abGYNzk9zJmxH3w=; b=TTZiEfBHvhXmvmkuOP6oDw89TJ PUI2rx3/oZmM7JGyK6mNun5YIbCO6WUnw2UILf72awr+izj4oZnoFBG2braIGc0D3719/DZRoNFNz wHNG7ZosPOQ76FBOVqrUrc2zMBnne9V8xQvBTE2Rbu9Jg3jzEMRKDAMqYcYKowBoj9Fk=; Received: from i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net ([194.106.52.83]:41631 helo=pn.abelian.org) by porthos.netcom.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c6Y0r-0005Aq-W2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:18:38 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pn.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0B7400593 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:18:37 +0000 (UTC) References: <154c32c4dba-373a-24653@webprd-m58.mail.aol.com> <573E5907.6020107@posteo.de> <573EA094.3040205@abelian.org> <573EF90F.1080201@posteo.de> <573FC4DA.3080107@abelian.org> <5740842D.3030000@posteo.de> <5744FA27.6010703@posteo.de> <57F56531.3060205@posteo.de> <5817DE39.9010506@posteo.de> <5818DDAB.7000804@abelian.org> <5819E3AA.3020906@posteo.de> <581A452F.6060506@abelian.org> <581A4BC6.9030106@abelian.org> <581A541E.9050406@abelian.org> <581A8098.8050909@posteo.de> <581C3027.8050003@abelian.org> <581C8660.1070709@posteo.de> <581C90C7.5030809@abelian.org> <581C95BC.6010602@posteo.de> <581DA8E4.5010701@abelian.org> <581DB9C0.10602@posteo.de> <581DCF2E.5090902@abelian.org> <581F9797.9060709@abelian.org> <5824A47D.3060108@posteo.de> <58260EC4.70903@abelian.org> <58261368.60901@posteo.de> <58261772.3050508@abelian.org> <5826BF91.6070907@abelian.org> <5826DB6E.1060000@abelian.org> <58276523.4000204@abelian.org> <5829D9E1.2020801@posteo.de> <582A0BF2.5070101@abelian.org> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Paul Nicholson Message-ID: <582AB6CD.5090603@abelian.org> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 07:18:37 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <582A0BF2.5070101@abelian.org> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - porthos.netcom.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - abelian.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: porthos.netcom.co.uk: authenticated_id: catchall@abelian.org X-Authenticated-Sender: porthos.netcom.co.uk: catchall@abelian.org X-Scan-Signature: f62c7cf8eeb8e5a327b71719e9bffff1 Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut transmissions on lower frequencies?, pre-tests: 6.47kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9464 Message 'DK7FC JN49IK 73' from Oct 7th 16K25A with 80 second symbols, Eb/N0 = +1.1dB BER 37.4%. Carrier (after phase modulation reversed) in 6uHz bandwidth http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/161115a.gif Amplitude corresponds to 1.5 electron charges on the E-field antenna. The reconstructed carrier doesn't even show up in a spectrogram in the bandwidth of the 80 second symbols http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/161115b.gif I find it fascinating that the Viterbi decoder, working in that same bandwidth, is able to extract a message from the invisible signal. Have to increase the frequency resolution by a factor 10 before the carrier can be seen by eye, http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/161115c.gif -- Paul Nicholson --