Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1182; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u9EFBCNi031573 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:11:15 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bv2Sg-0002pi-Uv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:23:46 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bv2Sg-0002pW-IY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:23:46 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bv2Se-0006Qx-CZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:23:45 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB8F2209DC for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 15:23:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3swSwY5Ynhz105x for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 15:23:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5800DC5D.2040502@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 15:23:41 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <157b05f2e7d-a71-85cc@webprd-a60.mail.aol.com> <57FC02C5.10700@posteo.de> <57FCA0EC.3000804@abelian.org> <57FCE651.7020809@posteo.de> <57FE04F2.9090208@abelian.org> <57FE4A79.2010904@posteo.de> <57FE907A.6040200@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <57FE907A.6040200@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: f7f918e40888a44a70dddae14bd6a529 Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut transmissions on lower frequencies?, pre-tests: 6.47kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040604030902030408060905" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 3520 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9078 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040604030902030408060905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, Hmmmm, wellll, maybe there are some propagation behaviours on the band that we don't know yet. Could summer work better than winter, despite the higher average QRN levels? Who has the privilege to do private-research on a 'new' band? We! So, i started a new message: *f = 6470.00000 Hz Start time: 14.10.2016 13:15:00 UTC Symbol length: 60 s Characters: 3 CRC 16 Coding 8K19A Duration: 6h, 56m, 0s* *Antenna current: 290 mA (ish)* The QRN is very high now on VLF. But maybe this just indicates that propagation is better??? The QRN looks like as coming from far away, no local effects (yet). Any news from the previous tests? 73, Stefan Am 12.10.2016 21:35, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > > f = 6470.00000 Hz > > Start time: 12.10.2016 14:30:00 UTC > > Symbol length: 40 s > > Characters: 3 > > CRC 16 > > Coding 8K19A > > No decode, just a false hit ' WV' at Eb/N0 = -0.7. > > Strange. According to carrier measurements this should > be an easy decode at around +3db. > > More carrier measurements: night signal phase lags daytime > by 60 degrees. Night amplitude is about 0.1 fT. > > The 16K25A 15 char 140 second message should decode at > about Eb/N0 +6dB. So far no improvement on the partial > decodes, next to try is correcting for that 60 deg diurnal. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > --------------040604030902030408060905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Paul,

Hmmmm, wellll, maybe there are some propagation behaviours on the band that we don't know yet. Could summer work better than winter, despite the higher average QRN levels? Who has the privilege to do private-research on a 'new' band? We!
So, i started a new message:

f = 6470.00000 Hz
Start time: 14.10.2016   13:15:00 UTC
Symbol length: 60 s
Characters: 3
CRC 16
Coding 8K19A
Duration: 6h, 56m, 0s

Antenna current: 290 mA (ish)

The QRN is very high now on VLF. But maybe this just indicates that propagation is better??? The QRN looks like as coming from far away, no local effects (yet).

Any news from the previous tests?

73, Stefan




Am 12.10.2016 21:35, schrieb Paul Nicholson:

> f = 6470.00000 Hz
> Start time: 12.10.2016   14:30:00 UTC
> Symbol length: 40 s
> Characters: 3
> CRC 16
> Coding 8K19A

No decode, just a false hit ' WV' at Eb/N0 = -0.7.

Strange.  According to carrier measurements this should
be an easy decode at around +3db.

More carrier measurements: night signal phase lags daytime
by 60 degrees.  Night amplitude is about 0.1 fT.

The 16K25A 15 char 140 second message should decode at
about Eb/N0 +6dB.   So far no improvement on the partial
decodes, next to try is correcting for that 60 deg diurnal.

--
Paul Nicholson
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