Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.21]) by air-mc05.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMC051-a9674b97e53f162; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:30:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dh01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 6ADC838000121; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NpQeh-0003Rd-CN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:29:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NpQeg-0003RU-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:29:14 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com ([209.85.221.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NpQed-000697-NG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:29:14 +0000 Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so8402237qyk.16 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:29:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gBUQ3R+7P77iHs2hec6ZytRBMYLYrPD56pqPGuvDODI=; b=dMsrhju5kcxk/1pamMu9u3TXhF67AMs2wTpAHj8QVyaUYDi/elWKOiABmM4c3TTR72 pXzISZW7cBlxZCbSTfEEH+H7ZIiX1cjuGH9XCwS5zpAZqCGRzeFvyhHVk8VKabonxV85 Or3lZ+dS8ONqiUldAvjWn1j9Adhg//UF3WYkg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hrbIyP+u43Prc99tdzgjtxVkRQpizhyAD5Li7rBojcx6NRF7LdrN0obuDINU18tsvN BKSAGfdFFQSbg8O2EY269gaZUAdjx5YnvkTONKWjijHQyZ0lY1XMgY77AAWuDm9DZh9n RHYrifSK+nOuC7HrIl2YCpWd5jibIJ3c0zncc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.88.19 with SMTP id y19mr1186205qcl.46.1268245742382; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:29:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B50@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <4B978B2E.70404@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4B9792B0.5020609@abelian.org> <4B97D8F6.3000204@legal-medicine.de> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B4F@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B50@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:29:02 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca71003101029x59d54362he2db2405fa4ef115@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: VLF: Teflon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d247.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41154b97e53e0720 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Stefan, I have burned through teflon insulation running QRO on 137 kHz. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 2010/3/10 Stefan Sch=E4fer : > Interesting material! Should be a part of our HV discussion, not just on= VLF > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluorethylen > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > ________________________________ > > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von pws > Gesendet: Mi 10.03.2010 18:37 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: Re: LF: KITE ANT > > > > Hi Paul, > > You wrote: >> Can a thin wire be suspended between two kites, 100m or more apart? >> ... > > Tried that some 9 years ago. Did not work due to heavy detuning effects= if > wind speed varied slightly. What worked sufficiently was a pyramid guyin= g > at ~1/3 of the full length of the kite rope such that the shack was just > below the top of the pyramid. > > Greetings from Kiel, > Peter, df3lp > > > > 1