Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mg08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mg08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.208]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMC082-a98c4b97c8442fa; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:26:44 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mg08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B392D38000126; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NpOiv-0002Qx-1M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:25:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NpOiu-0002Qo-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:25:28 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com ([209.85.221.192]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NpOir-0004q5-OH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:25:28 +0000 Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so8253144qyk.16 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:25:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Nd1yNQAsheupxQAWrA3EOdNv8nnYMAw9RaihMN4eTtA=; b=Vz6elQgK4AU6/P5YRQcpEGlnB5Hes7qN7tcFxjuytoa7CVQ5x5nlrJOm0oLr19ISc0 d2Z5gJhvtAWEefjagqSEadv+CGFihjOm24W9D+ttIzf20TwY/2e7fbPl71U4iaMKwJDg +PxIqLXIcpU61dNqqL6wnp+CNBFoWUvyGQbyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i/ZSn92VbE6eR7pS6EWWYLIl6QxqZfV/gBHw5KRJ+W4ofCf1ACbYZSzwSKvjz6/r+G K04JtLK06U4peNREOjbVY0acNwKDj7/rAu4LXCmSdHcv9Sn9KBxaTY2UKYuxOxUcm3hM NuK1DJuuXIBmJEmG9ISdcUg0KkojYfgYyELQ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.222.10 with SMTP id ie10mr765565qcb.36.1268238318474; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:25:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100310154857.1BD38F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> References: <20100310154857.1BD38F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:25:18 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca71003100825o2be91023y334016975e59a765@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: KITE ANT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d256.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d04b97c84210ed X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) You will need a really big balloon to support all these ropes and wires! Better yet, use several balloons so in case one breaks it can still remain airborne. The University of Hawaii ham club has a web page with calculations for sizing balloons to lift wire antennas: http://www.chem.hawaii.edu/uham/lift.html --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Rik Strobbe wrote: > Mike, group, > > what about a "construction" as in the attached figure ? > I will provide topload and keep the balloon position more stable. > > 73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T > > At 15:13 10/03/2010, you wrote: >> >> I was thinking of a balloon supported inverted L. No doubt whatever >> antenna is used, adding a hat will up the ERP greatly. >> >> Mike >> WE0H/8 >> Mobile on =A0my BlackBerry >