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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:20:13 -0500
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From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
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Rik,

     WE2XGR/6 is running at least 10dB more ERP than WE2XGR/3.
The limit for WE2XGR stations is 200 W ERP, and WE2XGR/6 (Bob W2ZM)
actually attains this when he runs full power though I believe that
Bob only runs about half that power on  WSPR.

FYI WE2XGR/6 has been copied on ssb by Finbar - they even had a QSO
with Bob on ssb and Finbar using cw.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Rik Strobbe
<rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
> I just had a look at the www.wspr.net database and noticed impressive SN=
R
> values on the WE2XGR signals in Europe.
> To my experience -12 to =A0-15 dB is the limit for an audible signal (CW
> copy), -3dB should be OK for SSB !
> I am just a bit fussed why /3 is relatively weak (on average -10dB on /6=
,
> while its ERP is 3dB more).
> Unless the given values are TX output power instead of ERP (in that case=
 i
> can also stop wondering how to get 200W ERP without setting things on fi=
re
> ;-) - unless you have a really BIG antenna).
>
> 73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> 2010-01-19 07:30 =A0 WE2XGR/6 =A0 0.511499 =A0 -3 =A0 0 =A0 FN12 =A0 100=
 =A0 M0LMH
> IO93gx 5464 =A0 49
> 2010-01-19 03:30 =A0 WE2XGR/6 =A0 0.511500 =A0 -4 =A0 0 =A0 FN12 =A0 100=
 =A0 M0BMU
> IO91vr 5630 =A0 51
> 2010-01-19 01:22 =A0 WE2XGR/6 =A0 0.511499 =A0 -4 =A0 0 =A0 FN12 =A0 100=
 =A0 DL-SWL
> JO52hp 6259 =A0 47
> 2010-01-19 05:58 =A0 WE2XGR/6 =A0 0.511501 =A0 -5 =A0 0 =A0 FN12 =A0 100=
 =A0 OR7T =A0 JO20ix
> =A0 5977 =A0 51
> 2010-01-19 05:54 =A0 WE2XGR/6 =A0 0.511501 =A0 -10 =A0 0 =A0 FN12 =A0 10=
0 =A0 G0KTN
> IO81ti 5506 =A0 52
>
> 2010-01-19 03:46 =A0 WE2XGR/2 =A0 0.511550 =A0 -10 =A0 0 =A0 FN31is =A0=
 50 =A0 M0LMH
> IO93gx =A05282 =A0 49
> 2010-01-19 03:36 =A0 WE2XGR/2 =A0 0.511551 =A0 -11 =A0 0 =A0 FN31is =A0=
 50 =A0 M0BMU
> IO91vr =A05437 =A0 52
> 2010-01-19 03:46 =A0 WE2XGR/2 =A0 0.511551 =A0 -11 =A0 0 =A0 FN31is =A0=
 50 =A0 G0KTN
> IO81ti =A05308 =A0 53
> 2010-01-19 03:18 =A0 WE2XGR/2 =A0 0.511550 =A0 -12 =A0 0 =A0 FN31is =A0=
 50 =A0 DL-SWL
> JO52hp =A06085 =A0 48
> 2010-01-19 03:58 =A0 WE2XGR/2 =A0 0.511551 =A0 -15 =A0 0 =A0 FN31is =A0=
 50 =A0 OR7T
> JO20ix 5786 =A0 51
>
> 2010-01-19 03:06 =A0 WE2XGR/3 =A0 0.511450 =A0 -14 =A0 0 =A0 FN42ch =A0=
 200 =A0 M0LMH
> IO93gx =A05149 =A0 50
> 2010-01-19 02:56 =A0 WE2XGR/3 =A0 0.511452 =A0 -17 =A0 0 =A0 FN42ch =A0=
 200 =A0 G0KTN
> IO81ti =A05173 =A0 54
> 2010-01-19 01:58 =A0 WE2XGR/3 =A0 0.511450 =A0 -19 =A0 0 =A0 FN42ch =A0=
 200 =A0 DL-SWL
> JO52hp =A0 5953 =A0 48
> 2010-01-19 05:28 =A0 WE2XGR/3 =A0 0.511452 =A0 -21 =A0 0 =A0 FN42ch =A0=
 200 =A0 OR7T
> JO20ix =A05652 =A0 52
> 2010-01-19 03:50 =A0 WE2XGR/3 =A0 0.511450 =A0 -22 =A0 0 =A0 FN42ch =A0=
 200 =A0 M0BMU
> IO91vr =A05302 =A0 53
>
>