DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
        d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
        h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to
         :content-type:content-transfer-encoding;
        b=UaPxMUKVssmoPBnvJWniCuWFbz4Qs14BnBeFnWSJAjehwqcZhmE/d501G8iBy5XER9
         6A5vmxx97oIWCE2CMN5jRgjocwGhMV9QnA/FXRNmOdnwaOXXAiBUDlQd3lbv5b2XhnI/
         hIEUsb6LcW3EjzYRGaRP0hMuHAG/y+sHUjoyU=
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <88EEC52E6C874CCEB966804D073A3376@White>
References: <BC520BF69FBC4F4B9B8E1C9B8AAB8A9B@White>
	 <88EEC52E6C874CCEB966804D073A3376@White>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:24:00 -0500
Message-ID: <57a24ca70912110724l43b18b68t5d2f18849fb14147@mail.gmail.com>
From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
DomainKey-Status: good (testing) 
Subject: Re: LF: Intercontinental LF waterholes
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org


Markus,

              My antenna tuning unit is outside 100 meters away from
the ham shack.
 I am unwilling to go out in the winter night to retune the antenna to
QSY to the lower frequency segment.

--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com> wrot=
e:
> Dear LF,
>
> the passage should have said:
>
> Taking into account the path of mutual darkness, this would mean that al=
l
> stations should transmit in the=A0UPPER band during their evenings until=
 local
> midnight, and then QSY to the lower band for the rest of the night.
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> 73, Markus
> From: Markus Vester
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:14 AM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Intercontinental LF waterholes
> Dear LF group,
>
> recently we find the "transatlantic waterhole" around 137.777 kHz quite
> busy. Several Europeans have started beaconing within this segment. And
> there has been some fast (QRSS3 or 10) activity, with wide traces coveri=
ng
> up possible transatlantic DX signalling frequencies.
>
> During the last years, we have=A0attempted to=A0split the frequency band=
s
> for=A0both directions of transatlantic work.=A0Traditional segments were=
=A0around
> 137.777 kHz west-to-east (for Americans transmitting towards Eu), and ar=
ound
> 136.320 kHz east-west (for Eu to stateside).=A0Slow modes (QRSS or DFCW,=
 60
> second and longer)=A0were used almost exclusively there, and several sta=
tions
> were able to successfully cross the pond in either direction.
>
> The situation has become a little more intricate as=A0more stations from=
 other
> parts of the world (eg. Asia, China, Japan) are joining the game with
> sensitive receivers and good signals. But I still think it would be help=
ful
> to separate RX and TX bands within each area as much as possible.
>
> My suggestion would be to=A0stick with the east-west=A0versus west-east
> allocation of the two slots. Taking into account the path of mutual
> darkness, this would mean that all stations should transmit in the lower
> band during their evenings until local midnight, and then QSY to the low=
er
> band for the rest of the night. Receiver settings=A0would=A0of course be=
 vice
> versa.
>
> I'm aware that this=A0scheme cannot be perfect and universal. It won't=
 cover
> North-South hauls, and would not protect=A0signals during early or late
> openings. But it's simple enough, and I believe it would still be very
> useful. Please don't get me wrong - I do not want to discourage anyone=
 from
> putting out a=A0signal, and certainly=A0reject the notion of=A0anything
> reminiscent of=A0a=A0"band police". I just think a little coordination=
 may help
> all of us to=A0be successful on this=A0challenging and fascinating band.
>
> Let me have your thoughts...
>
> 73 de Markus, DF6NM
>
> http://freenet-homepage.de/df6nm/Grabber.htm
>
>