Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-5204afd892c3c5; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:28:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE127-5204afd892c3c5; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:28:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yzd-0003hO-KI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:27:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N8yzc-0003hC-Ca for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:27:24 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.211.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N8yza-0007fQ-QI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:27:24 +0000 Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so6593772ywh.30 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:27:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4vHzq0JKKMKEuD1l+/GJmfyyPM6emlVPtVyRnGTtYQY=; b=vPe02yeBrFrZ12cJkxcZASTj4/LovdfufzRSQ1Ox/buWs2Ny4YddSPicOL/D7FDDoW EG4wY7MST2F/lIe/ibShcHBoNWqDvbwiYjkrrac5TIiljpNAkdDC1LXIyi0rJF0KTQUf wZb6JAnn3g93WHhRXjUvYO1Jj5pdlfCPwl0+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=H9hP3U7SkH0PfnwrMaVWqavLkJUGHUMQc6Dv7mSxCJBsQxrN0xSJRNZnwdTJVC+F0g 4qhbJJ2RJk+UyekwR/0X9ArADSrk3ZqpeHSUBw64wOhQi+mbi1IZ4cMJKEKKR9vnZJLL vxgtZpaR7cUkD1Z6XtPkWk6HY8UlNRUaU+1sM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.129.28 with SMTP id b28mr8195466ybd.318.1258129634418; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:27:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:27:14 -0500 Message-ID: <57a24ca70911130827m3e839c7j50acd462e3966486@mail.gmail.com> From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m274.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pete, I don't know anything about "Pirates" on 500kHz. or even why you would raise the issue. I have valid FCC issued Experimental licenses for 500 (also 137 and 160-190kHz). These are classified as Experimental not "Commercial" -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM, M0FMT wrote: > Hi LF Group > > Putting Quantum Mechanics aside for a mo. I know this is bit academic > since my chance of working the Americas on 500 is pretty remote but are > these stations Amateurs or not Amateurs? Are they actually Pirating but > using a commercial call? > > The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how would > it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work one and I did? > The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur station is on > 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. > > It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. > > 73 petefmt > > > --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: > > > From: Graham > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 > > > Scott > > SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more than a > small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate each > other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays > > Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are > produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or (destructive > interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point of > observation ..... > > Thanks ! > > G .. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Scott Tilley" > > > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM > To: > > > Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature > stations ?? > > > > > Hi John > > > > VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur > service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. > > > > 73 Scott > > > > > > John P-G wrote: > >> Scott Tilley wrote: > >>> Hi Graham > >>> > >>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental > Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. > >> > >> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? > >> > >> Still confused.... > >> > >> John > >> GM4SLV > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > --000e0cd3704af0e2430478432141 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pete,

=A0=A0 I don't know anything about "Pirates" on= 500kHz. or even why you would raise the issue.

I have valid FCC is= sued Experimental licenses for 500 (also 137 and 160-190kHz).
These are= classified as Experimental not "Commercial"

--
73 Warren K2ORS
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ
= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0WE2XEB/2
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1



On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM, M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>= ; wrote:
Hi LF Group
=A0
Putting Quantum Mechanics aside for a mo. I know this is bit ac= ademic since my chance of working the Americas on 500 is pretty remote but= are these stations Amateurs or not Amateurs? Are they actually Pirating= but using a commercial call?
=A0
The whole setup looks=A0decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pira= tes how would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work= one and I did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amate= ur station is on 5megs and that=A0can only be a UK Mill station.
=A0
It's a question of how much you value your license I suppos= e.
=A0
73 petefmt


--- On Fri, 13/11/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>= wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsn= et.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the= new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ??
To: rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org
Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53


Scott

SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close ran= ge for more than a small fraction of a second because they collide with an= d annihilate each other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form= of gamma rays

Got it=A0 now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves ar= e produced .. which may suffer=A0 (constructive interference) or (destruct= ive interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the point= of observation .....

Thanks=A0 !

G ..

---------------------------------------= -----------
From: "Scott Tilley" <st= hed475@telus.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Are the= =A0 new VE stations able to=A0 qso=A0 with=A0 other amature stations ??
>
> Hi John
>
> VX is in developmental service= (same idea as US stations), EI in amateur service... Like positive and ne= gative antimatter they don't mix.
>
> 73 Scott
> >
> John P-G wrote:
>> Scott Tilley wrote:
>>&= gt; Hi Graham
>>>
>>> All Canadian 600m stations= are operating under COMMERCIAL Developmental Licenses and are not able to= communicate with the Amateur Service.
>>
>> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs wi= th EI0CF?
>>
>> Still confused....
>>
>= > John
>> GM4SLV
>>
>>
>
>







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