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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: DATA modes Not even that Mal, only been a few data qso's since the band was released , very odd , but I think , mode to RF generation remains a big problem G.. [...] Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.80 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE X-Scan-Signature: 60b21f5b7eb190e65b65540006a87038 Subject: Re: LF: LF es MF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41195103012c7101 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none DATA modes Not even that Mal, only been a few data qso's since the band was released , very odd , but I think , mode to RF generation remains a big problem G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "mal hamilton" Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 7:14 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: LF es MF > Chris > There are stns working CW but mostly amongst themselves above 500 Khz. I > have not listened for some time so not sure what is happening at present. > In the past the ones that I have heard are usual in Beacon mode at around > 5 > wpm or QRSS. > I have worked both the USA es Canada on 500 Khz CW some years back but > this > was pre arranged and CW was more popular and no DATA modes about like the > present time. > There is very little mention from across the pond on this reflector about > what is happening at present regarding working in QSO mode across to > Europe > It seems BEACONS and DATA modes are popular at present but I prefer CW > I hope this answers your question but you could ask on the reflector if > anyone across the pond is interested in CW QSO operating with Europe and > see > if anyone responds. > 73 es gl de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "C. Groeger" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:41 PM > Subject: Re: LF: LF es MF > > >> Mal, >> Are there stns qrv in normal cw in US and Canada on mf? >> I'm just building big mf antenna and would like to try dx.. >> Here no qrs possible. >> 73, df5qg >> >> Christian Groeger >> >> mal hamilton schrieb: >> >> >Laurence >> >tnx for the info. >> >The excitement of 136 Khz has long gone when there was no Internet > involvement. I used to call CQ on CW or QRSS and QSX 7033 Kcs. The > excitement started when I got replies from the USA and Canada to the West > and the Russians the East. >> >and conducted a proper two way QSO, plus lots of CW QSO'S around EU >> >There is no pleasure churning out a BEACON 24/7 unattended and hoping > that someone reports reception via the Internet. >> >I only Transmit if there is a chance of getting a two way QSO. It worked > well back then so that is what I expect now. >> >The same applies to MF. That band has also turned into a BEACON 24/7 > operation most of the time. >> >Machine handshaking Machine if the Machine is lucky !! >> >G3KEV >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Laurence KL1 X >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > Cc: rsgb >> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 6:14 PM >> > Subject: Re: LF: LF es MF >> > >> > >> > Look forward to seeing your signal in KL7 someday Mal - hasnt happened > yet sadly. >> > >> > >> > To date Ive never seen LF/MF signals from Eu that wouldnt require a > little more than ear/brain decode processing >> > >> > Laurence in VE5 >> > >> > On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:19 AM, "mal hamilton" > wrote: >> > >> > >> > LF es MF >> > Is there anyone able to QSO these days on either CW or QRSS on the > 136 or 472 Khz bands, or where appropriate xband. >> > I am not interested in BEACON 24/7 hoping for a HIT somewhere in the > world.even though at this time of year propagation is optimum. >> > I would prefer to go back to the past where QSO mode was the normal > procedure and not QSL via internet. >> > At present I would expect to be able to QSO with KL7 es YV if they > were suitably equipped to Transmit on QRSS 30 - 60 >> > I do not think anyone from the UK or EU has made a QSO on LF/MF in > recent years across to North America or Russia on either CW or QRSS >> > >> > De G3KEV >> > >> > >> > >> > >