Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1002; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u9S8MJ73025060 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:22:20 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1c02Jk-0004mx-8G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:15:12 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1c02Jh-0004mo-IV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:15:09 +0100 Received: from gmy2-mh866.smtproutes.com ([94.186.192.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c02Jc-0003Yl-FT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:15:08 +0100 X-Katharion-ID: 1477642485.75852.gmy2-mh866 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.es ([87.216.178.132]) by gmy2-mh866.smtproutes.com [(94.186.192.195)] with ESMTP via TCP (TLSv1/TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA); 28 Oct 2016 08:14:45 +0000 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::c40d:8140:d722:5448]) by servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::c40d:8140:d722:5448%16]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:14:43 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIGILANT_Luis_Fern=E1ndez?= To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: RE: ULF: A new step on the large ULF coil... Thread-Index: AQHSMI+z9HUeh90azEyHJ+CQVJZP8qC9geHw Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 08:14:41 +0000 Message-ID: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D84058F@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <15807ce0056.marcocadeddu@tin.it> Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.0.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: ead411ce91f9601ce3974c7575797436 Subject: RE: RE: ULF: A new step on the large ULF coil... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by paranoid.lipkowski.org id u9S8MJ73025060 Content-Length: 3115 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9267 Ciao Marco, LF Thank you for the reports. It is nice to be on air again in MF ! The PA current is 5A@14V, so no more than 70w to antenna. But here the antenna is made by a 11m vertical + top cap top loaded and top feeded in the terrace of 80m height buiding tower. The ground side of the PA runs down to ground those 80m and is part of the antenna, running just corrent, not high voltage. This is almost what Rik ON7YD describes here http://www.strobbe.eu/on7yd/136ant/#IndTop Noted some problems with the current protection circuit which triggered at 23utc. From that time to about 5utc I was running just 500mW from U3 bypassing the PA. BTW, I keep transmitting during daytime. Looks like last Winter, when I could get decodes at daylight from some stations at Germany and the UK Pity I still don't have a proper transverter to work JT9. But will try to join the QRSS and CW party next days 73 de Luis EA5DOM -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de marcocadeddu@tin.it Enviado el: jueves, 27 de octubre de 2016 22:22 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: R: RE: ULF: A new step on the large ULF coil... Hola Luis, tonight you are booming on 630m wspr! I don't remember if this is the first time I listen to you, but is really a booming signal abeit the distance. Unfortunately bad copy from Stefan (or better optimum if he's running qrp) if the stated power is correct GL Marco IK1HSS ----Messaggio originale---- Da: luis@vigilant.es Data: 27-ott-2016 11.40 A: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Ogg: RE: ULF: A new step on the large ULF coil... Amazing work Stefan !! :-O I bet you have constructed some kind of support (like a lathe) which lets you rotate the pipe easily and wound the coils . Right ? This is getting really heavy and the quality of coils looks very nice and repeteable ...... at least five times ! ;-) Dumb question: Why do you get different inductance values when resonating it with antenna equivalent capacitor and when measuring current at 273V AC / 50Hz ?? Shouldn't be inductance a constant value ? ...... or I'm missing something obvious :( Good luck with the 6th floor. Seems that there is no room for a 7th, so that's why you mentioned the variometer 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de DK7FC Enviado el: miércoles, 26 de octubre de 2016 19:06 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: ULF: A new step on the large ULF coil... Hi ULF, It's just a few weeks ago, now the 5th stack is wound on the coil: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/ULF/20161026_185804.jpg The DC resistance rose from 445 Ohm to 572 Ohm. The measured resonance frequency (using the antenna equivalent C in the shack) dropped from 3.667 kHz down to 3.208 kHz. That should be about 4.92 H. Measured at 273V AC / 50 Hz, i'm getting 197 mA, so the actual inductance is 4.0 H. A 6th stack and a variometer part is needed! 73, Stefan