Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TINY_FONT,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u8L8QNNx006914 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:26:23 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bmcoD-0001s2-LQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:23:13 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bmcoD-0001rl-6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:23:13 +0100 Received: from gmy2-mh862.smtproutes.com ([94.186.192.191]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bmco0-00061x-Bb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:23:12 +0100 X-Katharion-ID: 1474446160.25334.gmy2-mh862 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.es ([87.216.178.132]) by gmy2-mh862.smtproutes.com [(94.186.192.191)] with ESMTP via TCP (TLSv1/TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA); 21 Sep 2016 08:22:40 +0000 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::c40d:8140:d722:5448]) by servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::c40d:8140:d722:5448%16]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:22:34 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIGILANT_Luis_Fern=E1ndez?= To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: How is possible? / WSJT-X Thread-Index: AQHSE95GSZFW4MDkPU2aQhYuBtW5dKCDmarQ Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 08:22:33 +0000 Message-ID: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7E3D12@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.0.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: f6b061074980f2df097866ecbfb83465 Subject: LF: RE: How is possible? / WSJT-X Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7E3D12servigilantvigi_" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8820 --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7E3D12servigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All Joe Taylor made a very interesting presentation of WSJT-X at EME2016 in Ven= ice There is a pdf available for download with lots of information about it http://www.eme2016.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/EME-2016-K1JT-Presentatio= n.pdf An offcial version with all the modes and also QRA64 is still to come 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] En nombre de F6CNI - Andy - JN19QB Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 21 de septiembre de 2016 9:52 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: LF: How is possible? / WSJT-X Hello Stefan. Some comments : Here it keep in memory the last mode and band used when I start... I have n= ot your problem. I just chek all the menus, but I do not find anything abou= t that. So ??? Yes The WSPR-15 is not yet implemented, that is perhaps the reason why this= version it is not official... The JT9 and JT65 are working very well I Think also the docode is faster, the Deep option in the decode menu is fi= ne, it can decode 2 signals very close in frequencies and a bit better in S= /N reports (but I think no more sensitive). I did not tried to open several instances of the V1.7.0 here. Often I open = one XSJT-X v 1.7.0 for WSPR2, one v 0.8 r3058 for WSPR15 and one for OPERA.= That all. Best Luck and 73 Stefan. @++ Andy. From: DK7FC Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:41 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: How is possible? / WSJT-X Hello Andy / F6CNI, Thank you for pointing me to WSJT-X v1.7.0-devel, it actually performs bett= er than my old WSPR-X v0.9 r3058, especially when strong and weak signals a= re present in the same time slot! It also shows a 2 dB better SNR (sometime= s) but i don't (still) know if it is 2 dB more sensitive. Also it decodes f= aster. I will use it from now on. Unfortunately WSPR-15 is not supported in that mode so i will use the older= version for that. Why does the program not save the band? After a restart it always starts on= 2m... But that's a minor problem... I will see if it runs for weeks without crashing, an important parameter! How is it possible to run 2 or multiple instances? Do i need 2 installation= s? 73, Stefan Am 09.09.2016 11:17, schrieb DK7FC: I think it has to do with different software versions!? imestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter = RGrid km az 2016-09-03 09:04 F/DK7FC 0.475681 +38 0 JN2= 9od 1 F6CNI JN19qb 134 267 I'm still using WSPR-X v0.0 r3058 here. Newer versions performed worse for = some reasons. This version does not produce SNRs better than +15 dB if i re= member correctly. Another thing may be that someone could use e.g. a 250 Hz wide filter inste= ad of the reference filter bandwidth of 2500 Hz (SSB), which then produces = wrong ("improved") reports. 73, Stefan Am 09.09.2016 10:13, schrieb Max IK0VVE: Could someone explain this? 2016-09-08 19:42 IK0VVE 0.475682 +17 0 JN61km 0.05 F6CNI JN19qb 111= 9 322 2016-09-08 19:26 IK0VVE 0.475682 +1 0 JN61km 0.05 F6CNI JN19qb 111= 9 322 2016-09-08 19:10 IK0VVE 0.475682 -1 0 JN61km 0.05 F6CNI JN19qb 111= 9 322 2016-09-08 18:54 IK0VVE 0.475682 -6 0 JN61km 0.05 F6CNI JN19qb 111= 9 322 If I listen my signal with my RX antenna 5 meters far from TX antenna my SN= R is maximum +13 db, also for IZ0GIF that is about 4 km far from me. Probably Andy has an exceptional receiving system but +17 to more than 1000= km is a great SNR I thing, HI. After some minute great reports again: 2016-09-08 19:46 DH5RAE 0.475755 +14 1 JN68qv 0.5= F6CNI JN19qb 730 275 2016-09-08 19:46 PA3ABK/2 0.475740 +19 0 JO2= 1it 0.5 F6CNI JN19qb 320 198 73, Max IK0VVE ______________________________ ...here some of my HAM Radio projects... SkyGeM Rotator AntennaDinamica RCR-DX www.ik0vve.net --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7E3D12servigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All
 
Joe Taylor made a very interestin= g presentation of WSJT-X at EME2016 in Venice
 
There is a pdf available for down= load with lots of information about it
 
 
An offcial version with all the m= odes and also QRA64 is still to come
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de F6CNI - Andy - JN19QB
Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 21 de septiembre de 2016 9:52
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: How is possible? / WSJT-X

Hello Stefan.
 
Some comments :
 
Here it keep in memory the last mode and band used when I start... I h= ave not your problem. I just chek all the menus, but I do not find anything= about that. So ???
Yes The WSPR-15 is not yet implemented, that is perhaps the reason why= this version it is not official...
The JT9 and JT65 are working very well
I Think also the docode is faster, the Deep option in the decode menu = is fine, it can decode 2 signals very close in frequencies and a bit better= in S/N reports (but I think no more sensitive).
I did not tried to open several instances of the V1.7.0 here. Often I = open one XSJT-X v 1.7.0 for WSPR2, one v 0.8 r3058 for WSPR15 and one for O= PERA. That all.
 
Best Luck and 73 Stefan.
@++ Andy.
 
 
From: DK7FC
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: LF: How is possible? / WSJT-X
 
Hello Andy / F6CNI,

Thank you for pointing me to WSJT-X v1.7.0-devel, it actually performs bett= er than my old WSPR-X v0.9 r3058, especially when strong and weak signals a= re present in the same time slot! It also shows a 2 dB better SNR (sometime= s) but i don't (still) know if it is 2 dB more sensitive. Also it decodes faster.
I will use it from now on.
Unfortunately WSPR-15 is not supported in that mode so i will use the older= version for that.
Why does the program not save the band? After a restart it always starts on= 2m... But that's a minor problem...
I will see if it runs for weeks without crashing, an important parameter!
How is it possible to run 2 or multiple instances? Do i need 2 installation= s?

73, Stefan


Am 09.09.2016 11:17, schrieb DK7FC:
I think i= t has to do with different software versions!?

imestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
2016-09-03 09:04 F/DK7FC 0.475681 +38 0 JN29od 1 F6CNI JN19qb 134 267

I'm still using WSPR-X v0.0 r3058 here. Newer versions performed worse for = some reasons. This version does not produce SNRs better than +15 dB if = i remember correctly.

Another thing may be that someone could use e.g. a 250 Hz wide filter inste= ad of the reference filter bandwidth of 2500 Hz (SSB), which then produces = wrong ("improved") reports.

73, Stefan


Am 09.09.2016 10:13, schrieb Max IK0VVE:
Could someone explain this?
 
2016-09-08 19:42  IK0VVE  0.475682 = 3;17  0  JN61km  0.05  F6CNI  JN19qb&nb= sp; 1119  322
2016-09-08 19:26  IK0VVE  0.475682  +1  0  JN6= 1km  0.05  F6CNI  JN19qb  1119  322 
2016-09-08 19:10  IK0VVE  0.475682  -1  0  JN61km&= nbsp; 0.05  F6CNI  JN19qb  1119  322
2016-09-08 18:54  IK0VVE  0.475682  -6  0  JN61km&= nbsp; 0.05  F6CNI  JN19qb  1119  322

If I listen my signal with my RX antenna 5 meters far from TX antenna my SN= R is maximum +13 db, also for IZ0GIF that is about 4 km far from me. Probably Andy has an exceptional receiving system but +17 to more than = 1000 km is a great SNR I thing, HI.

After some minute great reports again:

2016-09-08 19:46 DH5RAE 0.475755 +14 1 JN68qv 0.5 F6CNI JN19qb 730 275
2016-09-08 19:46 PA3ABK/2 0.475740 +19 0 JO21it 0.5 F6CNI JN19qb 320 198
 
73, Max IK0VVE 



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