Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1481; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u87ALDX2014895 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:21:13 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bhZun-0000DL-9b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:17:09 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bhZum-0000DB-Gs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:17:08 +0100 Received: from vigilant.es ([87.106.80.234] helo=mail.vigilant.es) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bhZuh-0000tx-V0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:17:07 +0100 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([87.216.178.132]) by vigilant.es with MailEnable ESMTP; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:16:40 +0200 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::c40d:8140:d722:5448]) by servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::c40d:8140:d722:5448%16]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:16:39 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIGILANT_Luis_Fern=E1ndez?= To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Thread-Index: AdII1yCFiyYecCzcTNKT3RUqVSCZVAAAT9AAAAWTdoA= Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:16:38 +0000 Message-ID: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7D9E78@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <57CFDBF8.1010507@posteo.de> Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.0.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 21fa1f4f6fa4c74411cf10429eaca442 Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7D9E78servigilantvigi_" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8695 --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7D9E78servigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF Thank you Stefan. Finally could see a trace in your grabber ! :-) There were also five Opera-32 correlation decodes at Markus grabber 2016-09-07 04:35:09 EA5DOM 1500km 137519.916Hz 141mHz -30.9dBOp 100% 21.0d= B 2016-09-07 03:35:09 EA5DOM 1500km 137519.924Hz 156mHz -37.0dBOp 100% 20.6d= B 2016-09-07 02:35:09 EA5DOM 1500km 137519.948Hz 158mHz -36.5dBOp 100% 20.6d= B 2016-09-07 01:35:09 EA5DOM 1500km 137519.923Hz 142mHz -36.1dBOp 100% 20.5d= B 2016-09-06 23:35:09 EA5DOM 1500km 137519.904Hz 109mHz -38.9dBOp 83% 18.7d= B And "normal" decodes last night from G3XDV, SV8RV and IK0VVE 2016-09-07 04:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN G3XDV IO91VT 1.473 136 -32= Op32_||||||||||||_~32dB 2016-09-07 04:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN SV8RV KM07KS 1.827 136 -39= Op32__~40dB 2016-09-07 03:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN IK0VVE JN61KM 1.146 136 -32= Op32_||||||||||||_~32dB Iban, EB3FRN is decoding at -36dB this morning by ground wave at almost 300= Km and using a very ineficcient vertical antenna 2016-09-07 08:29:09 EA5DOM IM98XN EB3FRN JN01MC 297 136 -26= Op32_||||||||||||||||||||||||_~26dB I will try some QRSS of course. But first I want to make some trimming to t= he output transformer and see if this PA can be squizzed. If not, this is definitely a good heater for wintertime bu= t for only 5w of RF is not an option Time for a D class PA ;-) Output filter and transformer core is already here, so should be easy to ge= t some 50w or more (10dB) 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] En nombre de DK7FC Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 07 de septiembre de 2016 11:21 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Hi Luis, Oh yes, very nice! DK7FC JN49IK Opera-32 correlation http://df6nm.bplaced.net/opera/opds.z= ip date time call distance frequency bandwidth snr correlatio= n 2016-09-07 04:35:08 EA5DOM 1398km 137519.960Hz 97mHz -37.7dBOp 100% 20.2d= B 2016-09-07 03:35:08 EA5DOM 1398km 137519.910Hz 112mHz -48.5dBOp 100% 19.8d= B 2016-09-07 02:35:09 EA5DOM 1398km 137519.928Hz 75mHz -42.0dBOp 46% 16.6d= B 2016-09-07 01:35:07 EA5DOM 1398km 137519.926Hz 71mHz -99.9dBOp 77% 16.6d= B Somehow the bandwidth values are quite high. Normally it is arround < 10 mH= z. Anyway, a nice result. Do you like to try some QRSS-60 arround 136.172 +-3 Hz ? It's a long time a= go that signals were seen there. I guess there are a few people who would w= atch for you. 73, Stefan PS: My small LF coil is already here again. Some tests may happen soon. But= there are a lot of open projects... Am 07.09.2016 09:12, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez: Hi LF Last night was 5w !!! :-0 Testing an audio amplifier with dissapointing performances Very interesting spots :-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM El 7 sept. 2016 2:18 a. m., Graham escribi=F3: 100 mW to Ae ? to too much power , still 3 db left ! 73-G, ) 23:39 136 EA5DOM de G3XDV Op32 Deep Search 915 mi -42 dB in Welwyn 1520.0 H= z with 0.1w + MiniWhip 23:35 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 mi -1 dB F:2% in Albir - QRP Test 1519,6 = Hz with 0.1w + MiniWhip 23:35 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 185 mi -35 dB F:7% in Montbrio 1519,9 Hz wi= th 0.1w + MiniWhip From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 11:00 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Hi LF Yes Markus. Signal must be following some Ryanair path bouncing from plane = to plane :-) Since last night U3 transmits continously frame after frame. No stop to GPS= calibration So may be the increase in decodes this night is due to a better phase coher= ence 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus Vest= er Enviado el: lunes, 05 de septiembre de 2016 11:12 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Ol=E1 Luis, one more detection yesterday and three this morning - we seem to have a pri= vate LF duct between us ;-) 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 2:21 pm Betreff: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Thank you for the phase info Markus Can recall that the first tests last spring with same power and U3 were pha= se coherent But my U3 suffered a hard reset and turned back to factory default paramete= rs, so probably the park function makes the difference. Will set it and test tonight The other difference with previous test is that I'm not transmitting contin= ously. Only one frame every hour starting at minute 45 Thank you Stefan. The variometer in L1 is at minimum. So it is easy to add = a bit more inductance Will be better to add a bit more power soon and see if we can go for QSO ;-= ) 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus Vester Enviado el: jueves, 01 de septiembre de 2016 12:50 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Thanks a lot for the transmission, and the report on the report ;-) Nice se= tup indeed on top of your roof! I believe that the U3 by default does not preserve phase between dashes (po= ssibly depending on a "park mode" setting but I'm not sure). If you could = make the transmission coherent the opds correlator might gain another 3 to = 4 dB sensitivity. All the best, Markus -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez > An: rsgb_lf_group > Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 11:10 am Betreff: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Hi LF Last night the LF coils were connected and started to transmit Op32 with ju= st the 100mW from U3 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7162072/fotos%20varias/MF/MF%20and%20LF= %20coils.jpg So far, an Op32 correlation decode from Markus. Nice Rx Markus ! :-) Who's next ?? ;-) 2016-09-01 04:18:19 EA5DOM 1500km 137519.968Hz 28mHz -42.5dBOp 93% 15.5d= B I have tested the effect of the Ultrabeam dynamic antenna I use as a suppor= t pole while working as variable capacitor. I can get the resonance 15KHz down by extend= ing fully the internal metallic element of the vertical antenna. A great aid for remote tunning fr= om shack 73 de Luis EA5DOM --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7D9E78servigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF
 
Thank you Stefan. Finally could s= ee a trace in your grabber ! :-)
 
There were also five Op= era-32 correlation decodes at Markus grabber
 
2016-09-= 07 04:35:09 EA5DOM  1500km 137519.916Hz 141mHz -30.9dBOp 100% 21.0dB 2016-09-07 03:35:09 EA5DOM  1500km 137519.924Hz 156mHz -37.0dBOp 100% = 20.6dB
2016-09-07 02:35:09 EA5DOM  1500km 137519.948Hz 158mHz -36.5dBOp 100% = 20.6dB
2016-09-07 01:35:09 EA5DOM  1500km 137519.923Hz 142mHz -36.1dBOp 100% = 20.5dB
2016-09-06 23:35:09 EA5DOM  1500km 137519.904Hz 109mHz -38.9dBOp = 83% 18.7dB
 
And "normal" decodes= last night from  G3XDV, SV8RV and IK0VVE
 
2016-09-07 04:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN G3XDV IO91VT 1.473<= /td> 136 -32 Op32_||||||||||||_~32dB
2016-09-07 04:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN SV8RV KM07KS 1.827<= /td> 136 -39 Op32__~40dB
2016-09-07 03:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN IK0VVE JN61KM 1.146<= /td> 136 -32 Op32_||||||||||||_~32dB
 
Iban, EB3FRN is decoding at -36dB this morning by ground wav= e at almost 300Km
and using a very ineficcient vertical antenna<= /div>
2016-09-07 08:29:09 EA5DOM IM98XN EB3FRN JN01MC 297 136 -26 Op32_||||||||||||||||||||= ||||_~26dB
 
I will try some QRSS of course. But first I want to make som= e trimming to the output transformer and see if this PA
can be squizzed. If not, this is definitely a good heater fo= r wintertime but for only 5w of RF is not an option
 
Time for a D class PA  ;-)
Output filter and transformer core is already here= , so should be easy to get some 50w or more (10dB)
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de DK7FC
Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 07 de septiembre de 2016 11:21
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Hi Luis,

Oh yes, very nice!

DK7FC JN49IK Opera-32 correlation     http://df6nm.bplaced.ne=
t/opera/opds.zip

   date      time   call   distance  frequency bandwidth  snr    correlatio=
n

2016-09-07 04:35:08 EA5DOM  1398km 137519.960Hz  97mHz -37.7dBOp 100% 20.2d=
B
2016-09-07 03:35:08 EA5DOM  1398km 137519.910Hz 112mHz -48.5dBOp 100% 19.8d=
B
2016-09-07 02:35:09 EA5DOM  1398km 137519.928Hz  75mHz -42.0dBOp  46% 16.6d=
B
2016-09-07 01:35:07 EA5DOM  1398km 137519.926Hz  71mHz -99.9dBOp  77% 16.6d=
B

Somehow the bandwidth values are quite high. Normally it is arround < 10= mHz. Anyway, a nice result.

Do you like to try some QRSS-60 arround 136.172 +-3 Hz ? It's a long ti= me ago that signals were seen there. I guess there are a few people who wou= ld watch for you.

73, Stefan

PS: My small LF coil is already here again. Some tests may happen soon. But= there are a lot of open projects...




Am 07.09.2016 09:12, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez:

Hi LF

Last night was 5w !!! :-0
Testing an audio amplifier with dissapointing performances

Very interesting spots :-)

73 de Luis
EA5DOM


El 7 sept. 2016 2:18 a. m., Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> escribi=F3:
 
100 mW  to  Ae ?  to too  much power  ,&= nbsp; still  3 db left  !
 
73-G, )
 

23:39 136 EA5DOM de G3XDV Op32 Deep Search 915 mi -42 dB in Welwyn 1520.= 0 Hz with 0.1w + MiniWhip

23:35 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 mi -1 dB F:2% in Albir - QRP Test 1519= ,6 Hz with 0.1w + MiniWhip

23:35 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 185 mi -35 dB F:7% in Montbrio 1519,9 Hz= with 0.1w + MiniWhip

 

Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Hi LF
 
Yes Markus. Signal must be following some Ryanair path bouncing from= plane to plane :-)
 
Since last night U3 transmits continously frame after frame. No stop= to GPS calibration
So may be the increase in decodes this night is due to a better phas= e coherence
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus Vester
Enviado el: lunes, 05 de septiembre de 2016 11:12
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Ol=E1 Luis,

one more detection yesterday and three this morning - we seem to have a pri= vate LF duct between us ;-)

73, Markus (DF6NM)


-----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez <luis@vigilant.es>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 2:21 pm
Betreff: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Thank you for the phase info Markus=
 
Can recall that the first tests last sprin= g with same power and U3 were phase coherent
 
But my U3 suffered a hard reset and turned= back to factory default parameters, so probably the park function
makes the difference. Will set it and test= tonight
 
The other difference with previous test is that I'm not transmitting = continously. Only one frame every hour
starting at minute 45
 
Thank you Stefan. The variometer in L1 is at minimum. So it is easy t= o add a bit more inductance
Will be better to add a bit more power soon and see if we can go for = QSO ;-)
 
= 73 de Luis
= EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] En nombre de Markus Vester
Enviado el: jueves, 01 de septiembre de 2016 12:50
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Thanks a lot for the transmission, and the report on the report ;-) Nice se= tup indeed on top of your roof!

I believe that the U3 by default does not preserve phase bet= ween dashes (possibly depending on a "park mode" setting but I'm = not sure). If  you could make the transmission coherent the = opds correlator might gain another 3 to 4 dB sensitivity.

All the best,
Markus 

-----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez <luis@vigilant.es>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 11:10 am
Betreff: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Hi LF
 
Last night the = LF coils were connected and started to transmit Op32 with just the 100mW fr= om U3
 
So far, an Op32= correlation decode from Markus. Nice Rx Markus ! :-)
Who's next ?? ;= -)
2016-09-01 04=
:18:19 EA5DOM  1500km 137519.968Hz  28mHz -42.5dBOp  93% 15.5dB
I have tested the eff=
ect of the Ultrabeam dynamic antenna I use as a support pole while

working as variable c=
apacitor. I can get the resonance 15KHz down by extending fully the interna=
l


metallic element of t=
he vertical antenna. A great aid for remote tunning from shack


=
73 de Luis


=
EA5DOM


&n=
bsp;

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