Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u3TIMC3l004584 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:22:13 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1awCx6-0001Q3-5l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:15:44 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1awCx5-0001Pt-GG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:15:43 +0100 Received: from s16315160.onlinehome-server.info ([87.106.80.234] helo=mail.vigilant.es) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1awCx3-0005w9-TC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:15:42 +0100 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([87.216.178.132]) by vigilant.es with MailEnable ESMTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:14:48 +0200 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::3cdf:95f8:c1c9:3931]) by servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::3cdf:95f8:c1c9:3931%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:14:25 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIGILANT_Luis_Fern=E1ndez?= To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: Paint buckets as coil forms Thread-Index: AQHRogst4uu/Vk9bR4+dLGwzndI9VJ+gwbIAgAAHrQCAAGw8tQ== Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:14:21 +0000 Message-ID: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB53B7E848@servigilant.vigilant.local> References: <8D3702250C4AFEC-14C8-82556E@webmail-vd001.sysops.aol.com> <57235524.3010801@verizon.net>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [95.17.136.221] x-avast-antispam: clean, score=2 x-original-content-type: application/ms-tnef MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 33d261536bb1467bb13d5764461d5ec4 Subject: Re: LF: Paint buckets as coil forms Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by paranoid.lipkowski.org id u3TIMC3l004584 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7926 Hi all and thank you for the feedback Yes Lawrence. That Beatles hit is good for the job. But to keep it long may be end it with some Turkish dervish spinning around :-))) Thank you for the pictures and details Markus. It is very clear now which is the way to go. And Pauls amazing software to simulate the coil. There is always something to discover in his web site :-O Will follow your steps, winding from top to bottom About Stefan questions: There are just 205pF at the moment. Have not made any further improvements but there are few options to explore I do already noticed how important is to get a high antenna capacity. The hard way ..... but noted ! ;-) Thick cables for the topload are a problem. Finally the fiberglass pole supporting all the weight was not originally designed for that purpose, so the end section is a small whip and flexes a lot For the goal of a real QSO, I hope you mean QRSS-xx ..... and not hairy chest CW. May be the goal should be to get the WAC on 36Km band (were WAC states for Worked All Coils ) ;-) I'll show a picture of the buckets as soon as I get them. Looks that this are not as conical as Markus buckets. But they are designed to be kept in piles when not filled. Now I know there must be some space between them and also air flow for cooling For the receiver I think a loop like the last one you installed in the forest is a nice option. So I can keep the MiniWhip for LF/MF and run the loop to the soundcard and SpectrumLab. It is in the "to do" list ..... but that is crowded. I run the hobby in a multi band - multi mode - way And it is hard to keep all the porjects going on simultaneously Have a nice weekend. Antenna is down here, due to storms. And probably some rain !! Finally :-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM