Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tADFsFWF029615 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:54:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZxGca-00075p-6E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:50:40 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZxGcZ-00075g-RM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:50:39 +0000 Received: from s16315160.onlinehome-server.info ([87.106.80.234] helo=mail.vigilant.es) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxGbU-0001AH-RV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:50:38 +0000 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([87.216.178.132]) by vigilant.es with MailEnable ESMTP; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:48:39 +0100 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::3cdf:95f8:c1c9:3931]) by servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::3cdf:95f8:c1c9:3931%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:49:02 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIGILANT_Luis_Fern=E1ndez?= To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: Re: FR5ZX on MF WSPR Thread-Index: AQHRHiOhWlbeZ1w6Q0+4tENPgpgK/J6aAu+AgAAVbsA= Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:49:00 +0000 Message-ID: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B286E12@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <564601AF.4050201@posteo.de> Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.0.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 6b0411a0208d534ec13cf5eb48c0cfb7 Subject: RE: LF: Re: FR5ZX on MF WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B286E12servigilantvigi_" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5020 --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B286E12servigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great thoughts Stefan ! ;-) I would say special is when: -You make the best out of your situation (QTH, money, time, R loss, R rad, = ERP) to arrange a working radio system and -When you use that system regularly!!! (kWh :-) ) -Work on your skills and try to improve the system -When you build your own stuff from the skills that you worked on. Add another one to the list - When you SHARE your skills and help others to run their stations 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org] En nombre de DK7FC Enviado el: viernes, 13 de noviembre de 2015 16:29 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: Re: FR5ZX on MF WSPR Hi Mal, Am 13.11.2015 15:50, schrieb mal hamilton: Stefan At present I am happy with CW, QRSS and Opera on MF/LF That is fine. I am sure if I had Wspr I would make it to FR5ZX like all the others, it do= es not look difficult, It is difficult but you would make it, i agree. BTW what is difficult? Some say: "With your big antenna and QRO it is nothing special (=3Dnot diff= icult) to make 10000 km on LF" Others say: "When living in such a quiet location close to the sea, like yo= u, receiving TA stations is nothing special" Or: "When transmitting LF QRP into a small antenna and getting TA reports a= nyway, a "T" report once in 3 months, in exceptional good condx, this is no= thing special! It is just due to the good propagation, not due to your work= and skills" Or: "Seeing a trace in VLF in "DFCW-60000" is nothing special because it is= just due the high integration times and signal stability. Everyone could d= o it when having a station and signal generator like you" Or: "With your bought equipment, ready to use, developed and built by other= s, it is easy to get good RX results. Nothing special! Not your work. You j= ust put it on the table, switched it on, choose the right frequency and wai= ted a bit" So what is special? I would like a CW or QRSS 5 QSO with FR5ZX if he was suitably equipped. Me too. Maybe in the future, maybe. Most MF signals are reaching long distances but unfortunately there are no= t enough DX stations through the world listening or engaging. cfm. But also, maybe in the future. The band population is growing and FR5Z= X is a good multiplicator for activity. I hope he will stay. 73, Stefan --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B286E12servigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great thoughts Stefan ! ;-)
 
I would say special is when:
-You make the best out of your situation (QTH, money, time, R loss, R rad, = ERP) to arrange a working radio system and
-When you use that system regularly!!! (kWh :-) )
-Work on your skills and try to improve the system
-When you build your own stuff from the skills that you worked on.
Add another one to the list
 
- When you SHARE your skills and = help others to run their stations
 
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73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de DK7FC
Enviado el: viernes, 13 de noviembre de 2015 16:29
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: Re: FR5ZX on MF WSPR

Hi Mal,

Am 13.11.2015 15:50, schrieb mal hamilton:
Stefan
At present I am happy with CW, QRSS and Opera on MF/LF
That is fine.
I am sure if I had Wspr I would make it to FR5ZX like all the others, = it does not look difficult,
It is difficult but you would make it, i agree.

BTW what is difficult?
Some say: "With your big antenna and QRO it is nothing special = (=3Dnot difficult) to make 10000 km on LF"
Others say: "When living in such a quiet location close to the = sea, like you, receiving TA stations is nothing special"
Or: "When transmitting LF QRP into a small antenna and getting = TA reports anyway, a "T" report once in 3 months, in exceptional = good condx, this is nothing special! It is just due to the good propagation= , not due to your work and skills"
Or: "Seeing a trace in VLF in "DFCW-60000" is nothing= special because it is just due the high integration times and signal stabi= lity. Everyone could do it when having a station and signal generator like = you"
Or: "With your bought equipment, ready to use, developed and bu= ilt by others, it is easy to get good RX results. Nothing special! Not your= work. You just put it on the table, switched it on, choose the right frequ= ency and waited a bit"

So what is special?



I would like a CW or QRSS 5 QSO with FR5ZX if he was  suitably eq= uipped.
Me too. Maybe in the future, maybe.
Most MF signals are reaching long distances but  unfortunately th= ere are not enough DX stations through the world listening or engaging.
cfm. But also, maybe in the future. The band population is growing and FR5Z= X is a good multiplicator for activity. I hope he will stay.


73, Stefan

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