Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1002; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t9HEdJXA021084 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:39:20 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZnSa0-0000Sw-Dy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 15:35:28 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZnSZz-0000Sn-W4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 15:35:27 +0100 Received: from s16315160.onlinehome-server.info ([87.106.80.234] helo=mail.vigilant.es) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnSYx-0000rP-Mr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 15:35:26 +0100 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([87.216.178.132]) by vigilant.es with MailEnable ESMTP; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:33:29 +0200 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::3cdf:95f8:c1c9:3931]) by servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::3cdf:95f8:c1c9:3931%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:33:54 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIGILANT_Luis_Fern=E1ndez?= To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: EA5DOM going vertical Thread-Index: AQHRCGG9wFizgMH7ikaxIJNDTXOPZp5vUyMAgABqEss= Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:33:53 +0000 Message-ID: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B227788@servigilant.vigilant.local> References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B227339@servigilant.vigilant.local>,<56221C58.8010200@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <56221C58.8010200@posteo.de> Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [95.17.130.205] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: c793d0c4de6e7a8e9de14f2dfb1e95c8 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM going vertical Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B227788servigilantvigi_" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4422 --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B227788servigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Stefan :-) This is being posible with the help of many friends found here in the refle= ctor, like you This morning I have added the loop to the ground side of the vertical (dipo= le). No difference in the loading. Still mismatched. The PA rms out is 159V and input power 9A= @12V That should be 62V rms over a 50Ohm load. Anyway much better and less stres= sing working conditions that a high Q loop and can run WSPRS every 8 minutes wit= hout problems For the QRSS-3 QSO can be tomorrow sunday evening. Today I'll be out and ju= st running WSPR What a coincidence ! It will also be my first QSO with DL on this band. In = fact, will be my first QSO in this band ! :) No pictures about the arrangement because there is no arrangement. Just the= vertical antenna The radial go down inside the building trought a ventilation pipe. Let's se= e tonight if the loop around the base of the vertical antenna makes some difference and can reach LA ! 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]= en nombre de DK7FC [selberdenken@posteo.de] Enviado: s=E1bado, 17 de octubre de 2015 12:00 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM going vertical Hi Luis, My congrats!!! This is a very good result for an unloaded 10m vertical antenna! The coil will make a big difference, a few 10 dB i expect, although this is= hard to imagine since your reports are very good already. Do you like to try a QRSS-3 (or DFCW) QSO? :-) Would be my first on that ba= nd to EA. 73, Stefan PS: Show us some photos of the new arrangement. 19 spots: Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter = RGrid km az 2015-10-16 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475791 -30 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 DG3LV JO53gv 1887 22 2015-10-17 01:56 EA5DOM 0.475789 -29 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 PI4THT JO32kf 1613 17 2015-10-16 20:24 EA5DOM 0.475790 -25 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 DH5RAE JN68qv 1576 39 2015-10-17 00:24 EA5DOM 0.475788 -29 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 DJ0ABR JN68nt 1556 39 2015-10-16 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475789 -29 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 DF6MK JN68ik 1505 39 2015-10-16 20:40 EA5DOM 0.475789 -28 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 PA0RDT JO11tm 1470 10 2015-10-17 03:32 EA5DOM 0.475790 -24 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 G8HUH IO81mg 1430 352 2015-10-17 01:56 EA5DOM 0.475789 -33 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 G3XKR IO70ux 1419 348 2015-10-17 00:08 EA5DOM 0.475791 -20 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 DK7FC/P JN49ik 1398 27 2015-10-17 00:32 EA5DOM 0.475791 -30 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 DK7FC JN49ik 1398 27 2015-10-16 23:24 EA5DOM 0.475789 -28 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 DL6RCN JN58kg 1395 36 2015-10-17 02:00 EA5DOM 0.475789 -25 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 F6CNI JN19qb 1200 12 2015-10-17 04:48 EA5DOM 0.475790 -29 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 F4HBT JN08qx 1164 5 2015-10-16 22:32 EA5DOM 0.475789 -30 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 F6GEX IN97na 942 357 2015-10-17 02:56 EA5DOM 0.475791 -29 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 F1AFJ JN06ht 919 4 2015-10-17 02:00 EA5DOM 0.475789 -29 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 F5OZF IN94su 700 358 2015-10-17 03:24 EA5DOM 0.475792 -18 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 EA2HB IN93ah 550 344 2015-10-17 00:00 EA5DOM 0.475789 -25 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 EB3FRN JN01mc 300 19 2015-10-17 05:48 EA5DOM 0.475789 +4 0 IM= 98wn 0.05 EA5DOM-1 IM98xn 7 90 Am 17.10.2015 00:28, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez: New experiment ongoing tonight :-) Just the 10,25m vertical with one vertical radial about 11m long hanging do= wn A vertical dipole, really No coil, no adaptation. Have used this with the bare U3 and thought it woul= d not be possible to use the PA due to mismatch. But tried .... and it is not so bad= :-O Reports from EU stations show that the vertical radiates much better Dx sig= nal than the horizontal loop, even counting on the crude feeding system used We all knew that. Just a confirmation ;-) Working in the coil this weekend Keep tuned 73 de Luis EA5DOM --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B227788servigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you Stefan :-)

This is being posible with the help of many friends found here in the = reflector, like you

This morning I have added the loop to the ground side of the vertical = (dipole). No difference
in the loading. Still mismatched. The PA rms out is 159V and input pow= er 9A@12V
That should be 62V rms over a 50Ohm load. Anyway much better and less = stressing
working conditions that a high Q loop and can run WSPRS every 8 minute= s without problems

For the QRSS-3 QSO can be tomorrow sunday evening. Today I'll be out a= nd just running WSPR

What a coincidence ! It will also be my first QSO with DL on this band= . In fact, will be my first QSO
in this band ! :)

No pictures about the arrangement because there is no arrangement. Jus= t the vertical antenna
The radial go down inside the building trought a ventilation pipe. Let= 's see tonight if the loop around
the base of the vertical antenna makes some difference and can reach L= A ! 

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de DK7FC [selberdenken@posteo.= de]
Enviado: s=E1bado, 17 de octubre de 2015 12:00
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM going vertical

Hi Luis,

My congrats!!!
This is a very good result for an unloaded 10m vertical antenna!
The coil will make a big difference, a few 10 dB i expect, although this is= hard to imagine since your reports are very good already.

Do you like to try a QRSS-3 (or DFCW) QSO? :-) Would be my first on that ba= nd to EA.

73, Stefan

PS: Show us some photos of the new arrangement.

19 spots:

Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
 2015-10-16 23:40   EA5DOM   0.475791   -30   0   IM98wn   0.05   DG3LV   JO53gv   1887   22 
 2015-10-17 01:56   EA5DOM   0.475789   -29   0   IM98wn   0.05   PI4THT   JO32kf   1613   17 
 2015-10-16 20:24   EA5DOM   0.475790   -25   0   IM98wn   0.05   DH5RAE   JN68qv   1576   39 
 2015-10-17 00:24   EA5DOM   0.475788   -29   0   IM98wn   0.05   DJ0ABR   JN68nt   1556   39 
 2015-10-16 23:40   EA5DOM   0.475789   -29   0   IM98wn   0.05   DF6MK   JN68ik   1505   39 
 2015-10-16 20:40   EA5DOM   0.475789   -28   0   IM98wn   0.05   PA0RDT   JO11tm   1470   10 
 2015-10-17 03:32   EA5DOM   0.475790   -24   0   IM98wn   0.05   G8HUH   IO81mg   1430   352 
 2015-10-17 01:56   EA5DOM   0.475789   -33   0   IM98wn   0.05   G3XKR   IO70ux   1419   348 
 2015-10-17 00:08   EA5DOM   0.475791   -20   0   IM98wn   0.05   DK7FC/P   JN49ik   1398   27 
 2015-10-17 00:32   EA5DOM   0.475791   -30   0   IM98wn   0.05   DK7FC   JN49ik   1398   27 
 2015-10-16 23:24   EA5DOM   0.475789   -28   0   IM98wn   0.05   DL6RCN   JN58kg   1395   36 
 2015-10-17 02:00   EA5DOM   0.475789   -25   0   IM98wn   0.05   F6CNI   JN19qb   1200   12 
 2015-10-17 04:48   EA5DOM   0.475790   -29   0   IM98wn   0.05   F4HBT   JN08qx   1164   5 
 2015-10-16 22:32   EA5DOM   0.475789   -30   0   IM98wn   0.05   F6GEX   IN97na   942   357 
 2015-10-17 02:56   EA5DOM   0.475791   -29   0   IM98wn   0.05   F1AFJ   JN06ht   919   4 
 2015-10-17 02:00   EA5DOM   0.475789   -29   0   IM98wn   0.05   F5OZF   IN94su   700   358 
 2015-10-17 03:24   EA5DOM   0.475792   -18   0   IM98wn   0.05   EA2HB   IN93ah   550   344 
 2015-10-17 00:00   EA5DOM   0.475789   -25   0   IM98wn   0.05   EB3FRN   JN01mc   300   19 
 2015-10-17 05:48   EA5DOM   0.475789   +4   0   IM98wn   0.05   EA5DOM-1   IM98xn   7   90 


Am 17.10.2015 00:28, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez: