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Laurence KL 1 X Wasilla Alaska From: pa1sdb@amsat=2Eorg To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 10:55:20 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: 0=2E003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970,022 Hz O=2EK=2E thanks for info=A0Uwe=2E=20 You don't have to say sorry :-)=20 It learns us again that a stable signal is very- very- veryyyyy importa= nd=2E=20 My 424 uHz grabber shows your signal and drift=A0clear with connected p= ixels=20 My=A0 =A047 uHz grabber shows no connected line/trace anymore=2E=20 Nice to see=A0that the Frequency Error callibration works so well in Sp= ectum Lab=2E=20 It seems that the Soundcard here is also rock stable with help of that = SR cal function=2E=20 73s Peter PA1SDB=20 www=2Eqsl=2Enet/pa1sdb=20 ----- Original Message ----- =20 From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail=2Ede =20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg =20 Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:10 AM=20 Subject: Re: LF: 0=2E003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970,022 Hz=20 No, Peter, my control capture shows the same=2E Sri for that=2E Seems the GPS ant got wet=2E I have to find out=2E GL Uwe/dj8wx Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg Gesendet: 02=2E02=2E2013 09:52 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg Betreff: LF: 0=2E003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970,022 Hz Hello Uwe,=20 I'm not sure, but it looks like your generator is not rock stable anymo= re since 19h45 UTC yesterday (1 Feb 13)=20 It did drift down=A0about 0=2E=2E003 Hz=2E=A0 (Ha ha=2E=2E=2E=2E 0=2E00= 3 Hz)=20 Also possible that the trouble is here ofcourse=2E=2E=2E=20 Now (09h48) drifting back up=A0to 8970=2E022 Hz=20 Best 73's Peter PA1SDB=20 www=2Eqsl=2Enet/pa1sdb ------BB9ED085CB244F228223DC02CE291C03 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Laurence,

< No signs yet Uwe but over the Pole hasnt been good on any band for= a couple of weeks=2E>

we will see=2E   

You have seen traces of my LF signs in Be= ijing some years ago,

so why not the VLF signs in Wasilla now?

GL

Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv

 


Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg
Gesendet: 02=2E02=2E2013 09:29
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg
Betreff: RE: LF: 0=2E003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970,022 Hz

Uwe, Peter and other VLFers -

I ve shoved the very slow 8970 on the following snappers=2E

http://kl7uk=2Ecom/VLFAlaska=2Ehtml    VLF only
http://kl7uk=2Ecom/Alaska=2Ehtml      &nb= sp;  MF LF HF and VLF dependant on my viewing/requests

I see some odd goings on over the past 24hours around 19k, looks like s= ome stepping stones going on -  and it looks like the Alphas are d= oing some strange stuff too=2E I am on my standby soundcard which has a= little more roll off at HF after my Realtek died=2E

 No signs yet Uwe but over the Pole hasnt been good on any band fo= r a couple of weeks=2E

I still need to figure out the best FFT size and "decimete"r ratio as I= m still a bit clueless there - I need to do some more reading -

 Is it better to have a longer FFT input size and smaller decimate= or say smaller input size and larger decimate :-) ?

Laurence KL 1 X Wasilla Alaska

From: pa1sdb@amsat=2Eorg
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 10:55:20 +0000
Subject: Re: LF: 0=2E003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970,022 Hz

O=2EK=2E thanks for info&nbs= p;Uwe=2E
You don't have to say sorry = :-)
It learns us again that a st= able signal is very- very- veryyyyy importand=2E
My 424 uHz grabber shows you= r signal and drift clear with connected pixels
My   47 uHz grabbe= r shows no connected line/trace anymore=2E
 
Nice to see that the Fr= equency Error callibration works so well in Spectum Lab=2E
It seems that the Soundcard = here is also rock stable with help of that SR cal function=2E
 
73s Peter PA1SDB
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail=2Ede <= /div>
Sent: Saturday, Febru= ary 02, 2013 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 0=2E= 003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970,022 Hz

No, Peter, my control capture shows the same=2E
Sri for that=2E
Seems the GPS ant got wet=2E
I have to find out=2E
GL Uwe/dj8wx

Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg
Gesendet: 02=2E02=2E2013 09:52
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg
Betreff: LF: 0=2E003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970,022 Hz

Hello Uwe,
I'm not sure, but it looks l= ike your generator is not rock stable anymore since 19h45 UTC yesterday (1 Feb 13)
It did drift down about= 0=2E=2E003 Hz=2E  (Ha ha=2E=2E=2E=2E 0=2E003 Hz)
Also possible that the troub= le is here ofcourse=2E=2E=2E
Now (09h48) drifting back up=  to 8970=2E022 Hz
 
Best 73's Peter PA1SDB
 
 
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